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What brand 410 A are you guys installing? Gary 05-10-2008
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Posted by Gary on May 13, 2008, 2:18 pm
> Goodman's 35/5's pops like flies...

I don't blame Goodman, they're mostly GE capacitors that I've had problems
with. I've also had a load of GE contactor's go bad blowing transformer's
too. What about bad reversing valve solenoids? These parts used to have a
very rare failure rate & now they've become common failures. Everything is
designed for efficiency today & not for longevity.

Posted by Dr. Hardcrab on May 19, 2008, 8:55 pm

>> Goodman's 35/5's pops like flies...
>
> I don't blame Goodman, they're mostly GE capacitors that I've had problems
> with. I've also had a load of GE contactor's go bad blowing transformer's
> too. What about bad reversing valve solenoids? These parts used to have a
> very rare failure rate & now they've become common failures. Everything is
> designed for efficiency today & not for longevity.

Or designed to keep us employed????

;-]


Posted by Noon-Air on May 13, 2008, 3:01 pm

>
>>
>>> If that's so then it only proves my theory of how poor the coils are
>>> being
>>> made. Just think of it, a coil failing because of an excess mixture
>>> of air & moisture from improper drain trapping.
>>
>> No, it just proves that the majority of these systems were installed by
>> the lowest bidder and rather than spend a few extra pennies for a proper
>> trap, they were either just too cheap, or too lazy to do it right.
>>
>>> I tell my customers all the
>>> time not to expect the same life out of the new unit that they got out
>>> of
>>> their old one.
>>
>> The new systems won't last for 30 - 35 yearl like the old ones, but
>> properly installed and cared for, will last 20+ years. Nothing lasts
>> forever.
>>
>>> Hell you're lucky to get a capacitor to last five years
>>
>> Yes that is a problem with the ones in a plastic can, but I have not had
>> any problem with the ones in metal cans is standard resi type units.
>
>
> Goodman's 35/5's pops like flies...

I don't count Goodman as "standard resi"


Posted by KJPRO on May 14, 2008, 12:11 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>> If that's so then it only proves my theory of how poor the coils are
>>>> being
>>>> made. Just think of it, a coil failing because of an excess mixture
>>>> of air & moisture from improper drain trapping.
>>>
>>> No, it just proves that the majority of these systems were installed by
>>> the lowest bidder and rather than spend a few extra pennies for a proper
>>> trap, they were either just too cheap, or too lazy to do it right.
>>>
>>>> I tell my customers all the
>>>> time not to expect the same life out of the new unit that they got out
>>>> of
>>>> their old one.
>>>
>>> The new systems won't last for 30 - 35 yearl like the old ones, but
>>> properly installed and cared for, will last 20+ years. Nothing lasts
>>> forever.
>>>
>>>> Hell you're lucky to get a capacitor to last five years
>>>
>>> Yes that is a problem with the ones in a plastic can, but I have not had
>>> any problem with the ones in metal cans is standard resi type units.
>>
>>
>> Goodman's 35/5's pops like flies...
>
> I don't count Goodman as "standard resi"


Goodman is STANDARD, it's just that everything else is PREMIUM grade. LOL



Posted by Gary on May 14, 2008, 9:34 am
The problem is not with Goodman, it's with those who install them.
I've been installing & servicing them for years & until the recent coil
problems have been exceptionally pleased with their performance &
reliability. I installed a Goodman heat pump in my house ten years ago &
have never even had to put my gauges on it since. So much for annual
maintenance. The real problem is the Goodman distibutors who sell the
equipment to any unlicensed hack who doesn't install it correctly.
I've still seen a whole lot more coil leaks in Yorks & Heils.
I just talked to a Trane dealer & he told me he's has plenty of bad Trane
coils too.

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