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What keeps a compressor from "slugging" right after turn on Mark 06-02-2008
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Posted by Mark on June 2, 2008, 10:01 pm
What keeps a compressor from "slugging" right after turn on


I know from reading that it is bad for a compressor to try to compress
liquid refrigerant. I also know that when the compressor cycles off,
the refrigerant will migrate away from the warm parts of the system
and into the colder parts. So during the off part of the cycle the
refrigerant will migrate out of the compressor and out of the
condenser and tend to condense and collect as liquid in the
evaporator. So what happens when the system cycles back on. Why
doesn't the liquid that has collected in the evaporator get sucked
into the compressor and damage it when the system cycles back on.

The question seems to apply to both automotive and hermetic
compressors.

thanks
Mark

Posted by Stormin Mormon on June 2, 2008, 10:23 pm
Crankcase heater, for central AC. For window units, mostly dumb luck.

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What keeps a compressor from "slugging" right after turn on


I know from reading that it is bad for a compressor to try to compress
liquid refrigerant. I also know that when the compressor cycles off,
the refrigerant will migrate away from the warm parts of the system
and into the colder parts. So during the off part of the cycle the
refrigerant will migrate out of the compressor and out of the
condenser and tend to condense and collect as liquid in the
evaporator. So what happens when the system cycles back on. Why
doesn't the liquid that has collected in the evaporator get sucked
into the compressor and damage it when the system cycles back on.

The question seems to apply to both automotive and hermetic
compressors.

thanks
Mark



Posted by new jersey on June 3, 2008, 9:20 am
Mark
you practically answering you own question
On off cycle liquid collects into evaporator and on start up of next cycle
there is nothing stopping or delaying for that liquid getting into crankcase
of
compressor so you wind up with busted valves among other things,
solving problem of slugging is by adding suction accumulator on suction
line,
other two items can also help by adding crankcase heater and solenoid on
liquid line, for small AC units I would say number one would be of adding
suction accumulator if space permit second solenoid and third crankcase
heater
if you AC is to be used with cold temp. outside then it would be imperative
to
add crankcase heater and suction accumulator!
Tony
www.cas-environ.com




> What keeps a compressor from "slugging" right after turn on
>
>
> I know from reading that it is bad for a compressor to try to compress
> liquid refrigerant. I also know that when the compressor cycles off,
> the refrigerant will migrate away from the warm parts of the system
> and into the colder parts. So during the off part of the cycle the
> refrigerant will migrate out of the compressor and out of the
> condenser and tend to condense and collect as liquid in the
> evaporator.
So what happens when the system cycles back on.
why doesn't the liquid that has collected in the evaporator get sucked
> into the compressor and damage it when the system cycles back on.
>
> The question seems to apply to both automotive and hermetic
> compressors.
>
> thanks
> Mark



Posted by Zyp on June 3, 2008, 2:24 pm
new jersey wrote:
> Mark
> you practically answering you own question
> On off cycle liquid collects into evaporator and on start up of next
> cycle there is nothing stopping or delaying for that liquid getting
> into crankcase of
> compressor so you wind up with busted valves among other things,
> solving problem of slugging is by adding suction accumulator on
> suction line,
> other two items can also help by adding crankcase heater and solenoid
> on liquid line, for small AC units I would say number one would be of
> adding suction accumulator if space permit second solenoid and third
> crankcase heater
> if you AC is to be used with cold temp. outside then it would be
> imperative to
> add crankcase heater and suction accumulator!
> Tony
> www.cas-environ.com
>
>
>
>
>> What keeps a compressor from "slugging" right after turn on
>>
>>
>> I know from reading that it is bad for a compressor to try to
>> compress liquid refrigerant. I also know that when the compressor
>> cycles off, the refrigerant will migrate away from the warm parts of
>> the system and into the colder parts. So during the off part of the
>> cycle the refrigerant will migrate out of the compressor and out of
>> the condenser and tend to condense and collect as liquid in the
>> evaporator.
> So what happens when the system cycles back on.
> why doesn't the liquid that has collected in the evaporator get sucked
>> into the compressor and damage it when the system cycles back on.
>>
>> The question seems to apply to both automotive and hermetic
>> compressors.
>>
>> thanks
>> Mark

Close but no cigar. Only a cigarette. LOL

--
Zyp



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