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What sort of external static duct pressures typically occur in Mobile/Mfd. Homes ? IlBeBauck@gmail.com 11-07-2008
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Posted by Zyp on November 12, 2008, 8:39 pm
Noon-Air wrote:
>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Mobile Home furnaces are different from conventional furnaces ,
>>>>> due to the increased ESP encountered in Mobile Home duct systems
>>>>> . Has anyone actually checked to see what the ESP was on a Mobile
>>>>> Home duct system ? Im curious to know how much higher they run
>>>>> than the standard 0.5" that typical furnace blower assemblys are
>>>>> designed for. I
>>>>> cannot find Fan Charts for any of the common Mobile Home Furnace
>>>>> Mfgrs . Thanks.
>>>> Look again. They are there. Check ACCA's manual J and D for trailer
>>>> homes.
>>>> Email Don Steeth in Canada. He put together HVAC-Calc software and
>>>> that also covers mobile home units. The blowers on those make up
>>>> any difference.
>>> REPLY: Have you measured the static in a Mobile/MFD home ? If so,
>>> what do they run ? Save me some time looking it up...im just
>>> curious.
>> Yes I have. Your education is not my problem. Necessity is the
>> Mother of invention and a number of other things. I strongly suggest
>> that you do your own research. Anyone here that owns a Decent
>> ductwork manual and/or software has those figures. You want those..
>> get off your ass and look them up. Try Barnes and Nobles in the
>> Engineering section.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> REPLY: If you have actually measured static pressure in a Mobile Home
> thats a double-wide, then why cant you be helpful by offering up this
> info ? It has nothing to do 'with my education' ; I simply dont work
> on Mobile Homes but would like to know. If it is too much of an
> imposition asking you as a fellow HVAC person, then please dont
> respond to my post if you have to portray yourself with a big ego and
> bad attitude which is all too common in this Trade . If you have the
> opportunity to help someone in the Trade, you should ... instead of
> causing dissension . What is behind your attitude anyways ?? If its
> that you are overworked , bit off too much of a house mortgage, and/or
> have 6 mouths to feed, etc... then please dont take it out on me cause
> i didnt buy your house or get your wife pregnant. This Trade doesnt
> need any more cocky people with superiority complexes -- thats whats
> making the Trade look bad overall and especially to consumers.
> Please change . Regards.
> --------------------------
> So you said that you don't do mobile homes.... no problem, then you
> don't need to worry about it anyway. If you *DO* work on trailers,
> then take the measurements yourself every time you work on one. Just
> remember that the "normal" ductwork in a trailer will only handle
> 300cfm per ton, instead of the normal 400cfm.

:)

--
Zyp



Posted by Don Ocean on November 9, 2008, 11:54 pm
IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Mobile Home furnaces are different from conventional furnaces , due to
>>>>> the increased ESP encountered in Mobile Home duct systems . Has
>>>>> anyone actually checked to see what the ESP was on a Mobile Home duct
>>>>> system ? Im curious to know how much higher they run than the standard
>>>>> 0.5" that typical furnace blower assemblys are designed for. I cannot
>>>>> find Fan Charts for any of the common Mobile Home Furnace Mfgrs .
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Look again. They are there. Check ACCA's manual J and D for trailer homes.
>>>> Email Don Steeth in Canada. He put together HVAC-Calc software and that
>>>> also covers mobile home units. The blowers on those make up any difference.
>>> REPLY: Have you measured the static in a Mobile/MFD home ? If so,
>>> what do they run ? Save me some time looking it up...im just curious.
>> Yes I have. Your education is not my problem. Necessity is the Mother of
>> invention and a number of other things. I strongly suggest that you do
>> your own research. Anyone here that owns a Decent ductwork manual and/or
>> software has those figures. You want those.. get off your ass and look
>> them up. Try Barnes and Nobles in the Engineering section.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> REPLY: If you have actually measured static pressure in a Mobile Home
> thats a double-wide, then why cant you be helpful by offering up this
> info ?


I made my Children and Grandchilren do their own Homework. They all
graduated with high grades etc from military and other colleges.. The
time you have wasted here would have put you way down the road of
knowledge if you did your own work.

It has nothing to do 'with my education' ; I simply dont work
> on Mobile Homes but would like to know.

I don't work on Glass blowing and other glass art forms, but have
learned those trades by seeking real education form the sources that
teach those things.

If it is too much of an
> imposition asking you as a fellow HVAC person, then please dont
> respond to my post if you have to portray yourself with a big ego and
> bad attitude which is all too common in this Trade .

You are quite welcome not to read my replies and you are posting from a
Ho,me repair NG. Something no respectful HVAC person would do.. So You
are quite welcome to kills my ass. By the way HVAC is only one of my
business interests.

If you have the
> opportunity to help someone in the Trade, you should ... instead of
> causing dissension . What is behind your attitude anyways ??

I give Charity to those that deserve it. If you were in the trade ..You
would not be asking ignorant questions about something you would have to
know to even pass the tests for a License. Fools can take excellent
information and kill themselves or families messing with things in our
business. Then whine ..That a professional led them to disaster. Now go
away aMD PESTER OTHERS ..Say like in "alt.kooks"

If its
> that you are overworked , bit off too much of a house mortgage, and/or
> have 6 mouths to feed, etc... then please dont take it out on me cause
> i didnt buy your house or get your wife pregnant. This Trade doesnt
> need any more cocky people with superiority complexes


Actually Sonny, I don't have any of those problems.. You are the
problem.. I gave you some good advice.. Buy a book or take a class. Now
get the Hell out of our NG.

-- thats whats
> making the Trade look bad overall and especially to consumers.
> Please change . Regards.

This is not a consumers group.. Nor is it to cater to people like you.
When you buy a stock Share in this NG from Paul, it might behoove some
of our more Junior members to guide you. Stormy is usually available.
The last several folks he helped have never been heard from again though.

Posted by IlBeBauck@gmail.com on November 10, 2008, 6:08 pm
> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> Mobile Home furnaces are different from conventional furnaces , due=
to
> >>>>> the increased ESP =A0encountered in Mobile Home duct systems . Has
> >>>>> anyone actually checked to see what the ESP was on a Mobile Home du=
ct
> >>>>> system ? Im curious to know how much higher they run than the stand=
ard
> >>>>> 0.5" that typical furnace blower assemblys are designed for. =A0I c=
annot
> >>>>> find Fan Charts for any of the common Mobile Home Furnace Mfgrs .
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Look again. They are there. Check ACCA's manual J and D for trailer =
homes.
> >>>> Email Don Steeth in Canada. He put together HVAC-Calc software and t=
hat
> >>>> also covers mobile home units. The blowers on those make up any diff=
erence.
> >>> REPLY: Have you measured the static in a Mobile/MFD home ? =A0If so,
> >>> what do they run ? =A0Save me some time looking it up...im just curio=
us.
> >> Yes I have. Your education is not my problem. Necessity is the Mother =
of
> >> invention and a number of other things. I strongly suggest that you do
> >> your own research. Anyone here that owns a Decent ductwork manual and/=
or
> >> software has those figures. You want those.. get off your ass and look
> >> them up. Try Barnes and Nobles in the Engineering section.- Hide quote=
d text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > REPLY: =A0If you have actually measured static pressure in a Mobile Hom=
e
> > thats a double-wide, then why cant you be helpful by offering up this
> > info ?
> I made my Children and Grandchilren do their own Homework. They all
> graduated with high grades etc from military and other colleges.. The
> time you have wasted here would have put you way down the road of
> knowledge if you did your own work.
> =A0 It has nothing to do 'with my education' ; =A0I simply dont work
> > on Mobile Homes but would like to know.
> I don't work on Glass blowing and other glass art forms, but have
> learned those trades by seeking real education form the sources that
> teach those things.
> =A0 =A0If it is too much of an
> > imposition asking you as a fellow HVAC person, then please dont
> > respond to my post if you have to portray yourself with a big ego and
> > bad attitude which is all too common in this Trade .
> You are quite welcome not to read my replies and you are posting from a
> Ho,me repair NG. Something no respectful HVAC person would do.. So You
> are quite =A0welcome to kills my ass. By the way HVAC is only one of my
> business interests.
> =A0 If you have the
> > opportunity to help someone in the Trade, you should ... instead of
> > causing dissension . What is behind your attitude anyways ??
> I give Charity to those that deserve it. If you were in the trade ..You
> would not be asking ignorant questions about something you would have to
> know to even pass the tests for a License. Fools can take excellent
> information and kill themselves or families messing with things in our
> business. Then whine ..That a professional led them to disaster. Now go
> away aMD PESTER OTHERS ..Say like in "alt.kooks"
> =A0 If its
> > that you are overworked , bit off too much of a house mortgage, and/or
> > have 6 mouths to feed, etc... then please dont take it out on me cause
> > i didnt buy your house or get your wife pregnant. =A0This Trade doesnt
> > need any more cocky people with superiority complexes
> Actually Sonny, I don't have any of those problems.. You are the
> problem.. I gave you some good advice.. Buy a book or take a class. Now
> get the Hell out of our NG.
> -- thats whats
> > making the Trade look bad overall and especially to consumers.
> > Please change . =A0Regards.
> This is not a consumers group.. Nor is it to cater to people like you.
> When you buy a stock Share in this NG from Paul, it might behoove some
> of our more Junior members to guide you. Stormy is usually available.
> The last several folks he helped have never been heard from again though.=
- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

REPLY: Im not a Consumer. Ive been in this Trade since 1976 . This
HVACR trade is very vast and no one knows everything about it...not
even you so please dispense with the Ego-trip ; Case in point :
Have you ever installed a Robertshaw Pneumatic Enthalpy Selector on an
80,000 cfm Fan System ? Have you ever tore down and rebuilt a Carrier
19DA Centrifugal Chiller ? Have you ever worked on a Steam Jet
Refrigeration System from the 1940's ? Do you even know the 3 types
of pressures for a common TXV without looking it up ? You shouldnt
be in any Trade with your pride and arrogance ; you obviously have
some personal issues you need healing on. Im not ashamed to say i
dont know what duct static pressures typically run in a Mobile Home ,
but you should be ashamed for promoting dissension .

Posted by Dave in Lake Villa on November 10, 2008, 7:25 pm
> REPLY: =A0Im not a Consumer. =A0

You're just a HVAC HACK (previously known as HVACFella @webtv) who's
has his dumbassed kicked to the curb by the real techs in here for
years now.
If anyone should be ashamed of anything it's you, for wasting your
useless life away worshiping an imaginary sky fairy


Posted by Don Ocean on November 10, 2008, 10:41 pm
IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Mobile Home furnaces are different from conventional furnaces , due to
>>>>>>> the increased ESP encountered in Mobile Home duct systems . Has
>>>>>>> anyone actually checked to see what the ESP was on a Mobile Home duct
>>>>>>> system ? Im curious to know how much higher they run than the standard
>>>>>>> 0.5" that typical furnace blower assemblys are designed for. I cannot
>>>>>>> find Fan Charts for any of the common Mobile Home Furnace Mfgrs .
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Look again. They are there. Check ACCA's manual J and D for trailer homes.
>>>>>> Email Don Steeth in Canada. He put together HVAC-Calc software and that
>>>>>> also covers mobile home units. The blowers on those make up any
difference.
>>>>> REPLY: Have you measured the static in a Mobile/MFD home ? If so,
>>>>> what do they run ? Save me some time looking it up...im just curious.
>>>> Yes I have. Your education is not my problem. Necessity is the Mother of
>>>> invention and a number of other things. I strongly suggest that you do
>>>> your own research. Anyone here that owns a Decent ductwork manual and/or
>>>> software has those figures. You want those.. get off your ass and look
>>>> them up. Try Barnes and Nobles in the Engineering section.- Hide quoted
text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> REPLY: If you have actually measured static pressure in a Mobile Home
>>> thats a double-wide, then why cant you be helpful by offering up this
>>> info ?
>> I made my Children and Grandchilren do their own Homework. They all
>> graduated with high grades etc from military and other colleges.. The
>> time you have wasted here would have put you way down the road of
>> knowledge if you did your own work.
>> It has nothing to do 'with my education' ; I simply dont work
>>> on Mobile Homes but would like to know.
>> I don't work on Glass blowing and other glass art forms, but have
>> learned those trades by seeking real education form the sources that
>> teach those things.
>> If it is too much of an
>>> imposition asking you as a fellow HVAC person, then please dont
>>> respond to my post if you have to portray yourself with a big ego and
>>> bad attitude which is all too common in this Trade .
>> You are quite welcome not to read my replies and you are posting from a
>> Ho,me repair NG. Something no respectful HVAC person would do.. So You
>> are quite welcome to kills my ass. By the way HVAC is only one of my
>> business interests.
>> If you have the
>>> opportunity to help someone in the Trade, you should ... instead of
>>> causing dissension . What is behind your attitude anyways ??
>> I give Charity to those that deserve it. If you were in the trade ..You
>> would not be asking ignorant questions about something you would have to
>> know to even pass the tests for a License. Fools can take excellent
>> information and kill themselves or families messing with things in our
>> business. Then whine ..That a professional led them to disaster. Now go
>> away aMD PESTER OTHERS ..Say like in "alt.kooks"
>> If its
>>> that you are overworked , bit off too much of a house mortgage, and/or
>>> have 6 mouths to feed, etc... then please dont take it out on me cause
>>> i didnt buy your house or get your wife pregnant. This Trade doesnt
>>> need any more cocky people with superiority complexes
>> Actually Sonny, I don't have any of those problems.. You are the
>> problem.. I gave you some good advice.. Buy a book or take a class. Now
>> get the Hell out of our NG.
>> -- thats whats
>>> making the Trade look bad overall and especially to consumers.
>>> Please change . Regards.
>> This is not a consumers group.. Nor is it to cater to people like you.
>> When you buy a stock Share in this NG from Paul, it might behoove some
>> of our more Junior members to guide you. Stormy is usually available.
>> The last several folks he helped have never been heard from again though.-
Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> REPLY: Im not a Consumer. Ive been in this Trade since 1976 . This
> HVACR trade is very vast and no one knows everything about it...not
> even you so please dispense with the Ego-trip ; Case in point :
> Have you ever installed a Robertshaw Pneumatic Enthalpy Selector on an
> 80,000 cfm Fan System ? Have you ever tore down and rebuilt a Carrier
> 19DA Centrifugal Chiller ? Have you ever worked on a Steam Jet
> Refrigeration System from the 1940's ? Do you even know the 3 types
> of pressures for a common TXV without looking it up ? You shouldnt
> be in any Trade with your pride and arrogance ; you obviously have
> some personal issues you need healing on. Im not ashamed to say i
> dont know what duct static pressures typically run in a Mobile Home ,
> but you should be ashamed for promoting dissension .


Did a lot of other people have to tell you that information as you are
too damned lazy to do it yourself?

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