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Will non-lennox brands work for independent humidity control in a Lennox system David Jensen 05-02-2007
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Posted by Bubba on May 2, 2007, 11:07 pm
On Wed, 02 May 2007 23:40:55 GMT, gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:

>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 May 2007 18:17:41 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:34:15 GMT, "David Jensen"
>>>
>>>>I am a building contractor and recently had an A/C contractor install a high
>>>
>>>        My ass you are. You're a liar, is what you are. You're some
>>>guy doing a little 'fix-er-upper' rental on the side.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"David Jensen
>>>Change the xyz in my email address to MJ for my real email address. "
>>>
>>>You work for
>>>
>>>http://www.mjassociates.net/mja.html
>>>
>>>"David Jensen - Principal
>>>
>>>David, co-founder of MJ Associates, has been working in hospital
>>>finance for 9 years."
>>>
>>>You ask amateur questions about 'how to use Visio to design a homesite
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/2lftpx
>>>
>>>and at
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/2ra9ok
>>>
>>>"Greetings. I am remodeling a 50 year old house in warm and humid
>>>central Florida. The house needs additional insulation and I'm
>>>trying to figure out the best thing to do. I feel that I have two
>>>practial choices. I could just blow fiberglass on the floor of the
>>>attic like everyone else does or I could insulate the top chord of
>>>the 2 X 8 rafters with fiberglass batts. "
>>>
>>>and at
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/32yjv4
>>>
>>>
>>>"David Jensen View profile
>>> More options Sep 6 2006, 3:44 pm
>>>
>>>Newsgroups: alt.building.construction
>>>Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:44:07 GMT
>>>Local: Wed, Sep 6 2006 3:44 pm
>>>Subject: Brick pavers over torch-down roofing on 2nd story porch
>>>Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original
>>>| Report this message | Find messages by this author
>>>I have a home that I have added a 2nd story porch to. Detailed and
>>>related pictures can be seen at
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/19579422@N00/tags/porch/. It is a wooden
>>>porch with 3/4" plywood over 2X8 joists on 16" centers on a 6'+ span
>>>(quite sturdy, in other words). The plywood has been carefully
>>>flashed around the perimeter and than waterproofed with a torch-down
>>>granulated roofing system. I am trying to figure out the best way to
>>>put 1/2" brick pavers over the granulated torch down material. Can I
>>>use thinset and attach the tile directly to the torch down? "
>>>
>>>etc
>>>
>>>etc
>>>
>>>You were in here a while ago, pretending to be a builder, too ( June
>>>of 2006 )
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/ytfnae
>>>
>>>"I am a builder down here in Florida and I desire to build very energy
>>>efficient homes."
>>>
>>>but at the same time -
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/2boxwn
>>>
>>>"Where is the best place for a new landlord to obtain solid
>>>state-specific rental agreement forms?"
>>
>>
>>hehehe. I love it when he (Paul) does that. :-)
>>Bubba
>>( I had to do a copy/paste to get your tag below to show. When I did a
>>"reply" (like normal) your tag disappeared?)
>>--
>>Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>
>>Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
>
>
>Yo Bubba......if you want to include tag lines w/o the cut & paste
>method, merely use the mouse to highlight all the text before hitting
>the Reply button.
>
>see? old dawgs CAN learn new tricks.... :-)

Thanks fish. Normally using Agent (not the free ver) I just hit reply
and it copies it all by itself (I think its really magic).
However, sometimes parts just don't want to copy themselves in there.
I think some of the words are just afraid to show themselves.
Don't know. Like I say.............it must be witchcraft.
Bubba :-)

Posted by David Jensen on May 2, 2007, 10:02 pm
Paul,

So sorry that I forgot to attach the resume. I didn't know that was
required. If you were sincerely interested in knowing something about me,
and whether I am 'legitimate' or not, I wish you would have just asked. I
would have suggested that you click on
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp?SID=&id=3309065 and you
would have probably been satisfied. It certainly would have saved you a lot
of time.

You are correct that I am involved in more than one thing. You just stopped
short of finding the whole truth. I too often rush to judgement about some
people.

I am the first to admit that I don't know everything and I learn much by
asking a lot of questions. That is why I posted the question out here that
I did. I can't think of a better place to ask such HVAC related questions.
You guys obviously know your stuff. My A/C contractor had indeed failed to
deliver what my client paid for. That's why I was looking elsewhere for
answers. I don't think most building contractors would have taken their
time to find out what the truth was about whether their client had to use
the Lennox thermostat or if there was a better option. I don't think many
contactors would have noticed the problem in the first place.

Now Paul, I have a feeling that you are probably one of the most knowlegable
HVAC individuals on this forum or you wouldn't be working so hard to
identify the "liars". Because of that I would very much appreciate you
kindly responding to my original questions. I'm very interested in your
opinion.

David





Posted by on May 2, 2007, 10:29 pm
On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:02:42 GMT, "David Jensen"

>Paul,
>
>So sorry that I forgot to attach the resume. I didn't know that was
>required. If you were sincerely interested in knowing something about me,
>and whether I am 'legitimate' or not, I wish you would have just asked. I
>would have suggested that you click on
>https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp?SID=&id=3309065 and you
>would have probably been satisfied. It certainly would have saved you a lot
>of time.

        Not much. I'm fast.

        So, you've had a license for a little over a year. OK. How
much actual experience ? I've seen people walk into licensing exams
that blatantly had no business being there, in fact that were
blatantly breaking or skirting the law, and pass. FWIW, I was not in
those categories when I got my 5 statewide masters licenses. I
actually earned mine.

        That's pretty scaring, that someone with a contractors license
asks questions like 'how do I insulate an attic' and 'how do I use
Visio to draw a home plan' ( seeing as it's about the worst choice you
could make for that ), etc.

        BTW, we get frequent people in here pretending to be in the
trade, contractors, etc, when they are just DIY'rs looking for free
advice. usually when someone starts out 'I'm a contractor, and I
don't know anything about HVAC', that's a hint.

>Now Paul, I have a feeling that you are probably one of the most knowlegable
>HVAC individuals on this forum or you wouldn't be working so hard to
>identify the "liars". Because of that I would very much appreciate you
>kindly responding to my original questions. I'm very interested in your
>opinion.

        Having done my 15 years in the field, I moved on years ago to
other things, like writing engineering software for the industry. I
don't follow changes in product lines, especially the residential
market.

        In general, with the variable capacity stuff, you're not going
to just take any old stat and hook it up and get correct performance.
Someone else suggested a Honeywell - I have no idea if it can
correctly control your particular model of variable speed equipment.

        In general, I would stay with the unit spec'd, the unit the
manufacturer says works ( and warranties to work ).


>
>David
>
>
>

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Posted by David Jensen on May 3, 2007, 6:36 am
Paul,

I've been around the construction industry for many years. That doesn't
mean that I know everything. Many contractors blaze forward and hope that
they get it right, letting the homeowner suffer a lifetime of consequences
when they don't. I try to ask questions of those that have gone before me,
recognizing that people that frequent such narrowly focused forums such as
this are often far more versed than say, the average HVAC shop down the
street (the ignorance I experience at many of the local shops in appalling,
forcing me to look elsewhere). Most importantly, I ask questions because I'm
always looking for a better way to do things. I'm not satisfied with the,
"That's the way we've always done it" mentality of most people. In the
examples you give, you imply that I don't know how to insulate an attic.
Any other contractor around here would have just blown the ceiling with
fiberglass and would have been done with it. I was researching the sealed
attic concept because I thought it might be better in my particular
situation. I have never drawn a house plan with Visio as you indicate (that
would be a lesson in futility), I was drawing a site plan, and Visio worked
well for that. We use Chief Architect for house plans, the full expensive
professional version, not the consumer one (didn't have it at the time of
the Visio post). Having said the above, I'm sure that you could still find
plenty to criticize about me, if that is your goal on this site.

You are 100% correct that many people taking the contractors exam have no
business being there. I was able to pass the test "honestly" my first time
through it. I think the average is three times, for those that ultimately
pass it and don't give up. Most that don't pass, fail because they don't
have the basic math skills to work the problems on the test. They can't
memorize those answers! Yes, pretty scary.

David


> So, you've had a license for a little over a year. OK. How
> much actual experience ? I've seen people walk into licensing exams
> that blatantly had no business being there, in fact that were
> blatantly breaking or skirting the law, and pass. FWIW, I was not in
> those categories when I got my 5 statewide masters licenses. I
> actually earned mine.
>
> That's pretty scaring, that someone with a contractors license
> asks questions like 'how do I insulate an attic' and 'how do I use
> Visio to draw a home plan' ( seeing as it's about the worst choice you
> could make for that ), etc.



Posted by -zero on May 2, 2007, 8:30 pm


>I am a building contractor and recently...

<snip>

FWIW, in most states, it's against the law to present one's self as a
licensed contractor when you're not one yet.

As far as contract etiquette goes, you must allow the manufacture to make
good and follow through with their recommendations/instructions.
(That will probably be on the contract law part of the
exam in some form or another)

-zero





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