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carrier furnace problem gerald.wesley 11-08-2007
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Posted by kool on November 9, 2007, 4:26 pm

> Is that how they diagnose problems up in Canada kool?

No, we use multi-meters and experience, just like the real HVAC techs. do in
the U.S.A. Wire colours are sometimes helpful but I don't rely on them as I
suspect you do.It's a simple heating setup.Do you think if R and W were
connected with two black wires it would hard to diagnose?
>>
>>>I need to know how many wires are connected to the tstat 2,or 3 ect, and
>>>the colors would also be helpful.
>>
>> They are all copper colored under the insulation.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> It may or may not be the tstat. if you remove the tstat from the wall
>>>>> how many wires are attached to the tstat?
>>>>
>>>> All of them are attatched.
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> My Crusader Carrier horizontal furnace was installed in January of
>>>>>> 1990 and has worked well. I have a problem when we turn the
>>>>>> thermostat
>>>>>> down at night the furnace will fail to activate when we turn the
>>>>>> thermostat up un the morninng or it will fire up and bring the house
>>>>>> to the temp but will not fire again when the temp falls. I replaced
>>>>>> the thermostat and that fixed the problem for last winter. but the
>>>>>> same problem is occuring now. I turn the heat off and then back on at
>>>>>> the thermostat and the fiurnace fires up and runs fine. I know the
>>>>>> fist solution is to not turn the furnace down but I would like your
>>>>>> help fixing this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Geald Wesley
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>



Posted by Robert M on November 9, 2007, 7:21 pm
well first of all I am A real HVAC tech thank you, I was asking how many
conductors where running to the stat but you had to be a smart ass I guess
you have to be smart somewhere. I was tiring to help the guy with his
problem so if you don't have anything helpful to add then please keep it to
yourself. I would use a DVOM to diagnose the problem but its hard to do over
the internet.
>
>> Is that how they diagnose problems up in Canada kool?
>
> No, we use multi-meters and experience, just like the real HVAC techs. do
> in the U.S.A. Wire colours are sometimes helpful but I don't rely on them
> as I suspect you do.It's a simple heating setup.Do you think if R and W
> were connected with two black wires it would hard to diagnose?
>>>
>>>>I need to know how many wires are connected to the tstat 2,or 3 ect, and
>>>>the colors would also be helpful.
>>>
>>> They are all copper colored under the insulation.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It may or may not be the tstat. if you remove the tstat from the wall
>>>>>> how many wires are attached to the tstat?
>>>>>
>>>>> All of them are attatched.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> My Crusader Carrier horizontal furnace was installed in January of
>>>>>>> 1990 and has worked well. I have a problem when we turn the
>>>>>>> thermostat
>>>>>>> down at night the furnace will fail to activate when we turn the
>>>>>>> thermostat up un the morninng or it will fire up and bring the house
>>>>>>> to the temp but will not fire again when the temp falls. I replaced
>>>>>>> the thermostat and that fixed the problem for last winter. but the
>>>>>>> same problem is occuring now. I turn the heat off and then back on
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the thermostat and the fiurnace fires up and runs fine. I know the
>>>>>>> fist solution is to not turn the furnace down but I would like your
>>>>>>> help fixing this problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Geald Wesley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Posted by on November 9, 2007, 7:36 pm
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:21:56 -0800, "Robert M"

>well first of all I am A real HVAC tech thank you, I was asking how many
>conductors where running to the stat but you had to be a smart ass I guess
>you have to be smart somewhere. I was tiring to help the guy with his
>problem so if you don't have anything helpful to add then please keep it to
>yourself. I would use a DVOM to diagnose the problem but its hard to do over
>the internet.

        Listen up, fucktard - you don't fucking come in here, as the
stranger to this place you are, and start telling the regulars what to
do, OK ?

        Now fucking go away, you're not wanted here.





>>
>>> Is that how they diagnose problems up in Canada kool?
>>
>> No, we use multi-meters and experience, just like the real HVAC techs. do
>> in the U.S.A. Wire colours are sometimes helpful but I don't rely on them
>> as I suspect you do.It's a simple heating setup.Do you think if R and W
>> were connected with two black wires it would hard to diagnose?
>>>>
>>>>>I need to know how many wires are connected to the tstat 2,or 3 ect, and
>>>>>the colors would also be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> They are all copper colored under the insulation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may or may not be the tstat. if you remove the tstat from the wall
>>>>>>> how many wires are attached to the tstat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of them are attatched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>> My Crusader Carrier horizontal furnace was installed in January of
>>>>>>>> 1990 and has worked well. I have a problem when we turn the
>>>>>>>> thermostat
>>>>>>>> down at night the furnace will fail to activate when we turn the
>>>>>>>> thermostat up un the morninng or it will fire up and bring the house
>>>>>>>> to the temp but will not fire again when the temp falls. I replaced
>>>>>>>> the thermostat and that fixed the problem for last winter. but the
>>>>>>>> same problem is occuring now. I turn the heat off and then back on
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the thermostat and the fiurnace fires up and runs fine. I know the
>>>>>>>> fist solution is to not turn the furnace down but I would like your
>>>>>>>> help fixing this problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Geald Wesley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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Posted by Zyp on November 10, 2007, 4:32 pm
Robert M wrote:
> well first of all I am A real HVAC tech thank you, I was asking how
> many conductors where running to the stat but you had to be a smart
> ass I guess you have to be smart somewhere. I was tiring to help the
> guy with his problem so if you don't have anything helpful to add
> then please keep it to yourself. I would use a DVOM to diagnose the
> problem but its hard to do over the internet.
>>
>>> Is that how they diagnose problems up in Canada kool?
>>
>> No, we use multi-meters and experience, just like the real HVAC
>> techs. do in the U.S.A. Wire colours are sometimes helpful but I
>> don't rely on them as I suspect you do.It's a simple heating
>> setup.Do you think if R and W were connected with two black wires it
>> would hard to diagnose?
>>>>
>>>>> I need to know how many wires are connected to the tstat 2,or 3
>>>>> ect, and the colors would also be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> They are all copper colored under the insulation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may or may not be the tstat. if you remove the tstat from
>>>>>>> the wall how many wires are attached to the tstat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of them are attatched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>> My Crusader Carrier horizontal furnace was installed in
>>>>>>>> January of 1990 and has worked well. I have a problem when we
>>>>>>>> turn the thermostat
>>>>>>>> down at night the furnace will fail to activate when we turn
>>>>>>>> the thermostat up un the morninng or it will fire up and bring
>>>>>>>> the house to the temp but will not fire again when the temp
>>>>>>>> falls. I replaced the thermostat and that fixed the problem
>>>>>>>> for last winter. but the same problem is occuring now. I turn
>>>>>>>> the heat off and then back on at
>>>>>>>> the thermostat and the fiurnace fires up and runs fine. I know
>>>>>>>> the fist solution is to not turn the furnace down but I would
>>>>>>>> like your help fixing this problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Geald Wesley

A "Real HVAC Tech!" Omg! Let me bow to you! ROFL

Geald;

The thought of the day; call you local HVAC tech, tell him / her to bring
out a Honeywell S86 ignitor [common on that furnace] and flame sensor. Get
out your wallat and pay the HVAC tech to diagnose and complete the repair.
Enjoy your heater!

--
Zyp



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