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compressor dead or fixable? manusharmax 07-15-2006
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Posted by on July 15, 2006, 12:16 am
I have a 20 year old 4 ton split system on which the air handler and
the compressor run but it doesn't produce any cool air. A tech checked
the freon pressure and told me that it reads a vacuum on the low side.


I presume that the low side pressure is meant to be lower than the high
side to make the refrigerant flow. But does a vacuum reading on the
low side mean that it is less than *ambient* pressure, i.e. is there
air being sucked into system? Does this mean that there is a leak on
the low pressure side (just prior to the pump)? Does it also indicate
a severe leak and is there only air in the system now, and no
refrigerant? Lastly, is this type of a leak generally fixable or is
the unit dead and should be replaced?

I've probably forgotten some critical information to include; will
include it as requested, but hopefully this is something to start with.


Thanks in advance.


Posted by Stormin Mormon on July 15, 2006, 8:08 am
Most good running AC systems run about 60 PSI on the low side. In
order to get a vacuum (below atmospheric) on the low side, you'd need
a leak on the high side. Low side leaks go to 0 PSI but not lower than
that.

The leak may be one or several. In any case, it means an hour or so to
trace leaks, and repair them. At this point, it may be easier to get a
new outdoor unit. If the leaks are in the outdoor unit. That would
give you clean coils, newer higher efficency compressor, etc.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

I have a 20 year old 4 ton split system on which the air handler and
the compressor run but it doesn't produce any cool air. A tech
checked
the freon pressure and told me that it reads a vacuum on the low side.


I presume that the low side pressure is meant to be lower than the
high
side to make the refrigerant flow. But does a vacuum reading on the
low side mean that it is less than *ambient* pressure, i.e. is there
air being sucked into system? Does this mean that there is a leak on
the low pressure side (just prior to the pump)? Does it also indicate
a severe leak and is there only air in the system now, and no
refrigerant? Lastly, is this type of a leak generally fixable or is
the unit dead and should be replaced?

I've probably forgotten some critical information to include; will
include it as requested, but hopefully this is something to start
with.


Thanks in advance.



Posted by aka-SBM on July 15, 2006, 8:21 am

> Most good running AC systems run about 60 PSI on the low side. In
> order to get a vacuum (below atmospheric) on the low side, you'd need
> a leak on the high side. Low side leaks go to 0 PSI but not lower than
> that.
>

Umm...wrong on all counts Stormy.

To the OP, the answer that Stormy gave you here..is 150% worthless.


> The leak may be one or several. In any case, it means an hour or so to
> trace leaks, and repair them. At this point, it may be easier to get a
> new outdoor unit. If the leaks are in the outdoor unit. That would
> give you clean coils, newer higher efficency compressor, etc.
>
> --
>
> Christopher A. Young
> You can't shout down a troll.
> You have to starve them.
> .
>
> I have a 20 year old 4 ton split system on which the air handler and
> the compressor run but it doesn't produce any cool air. A tech
> checked
> the freon pressure and told me that it reads a vacuum on the low side.
>
>
> I presume that the low side pressure is meant to be lower than the
> high
> side to make the refrigerant flow. But does a vacuum reading on the
> low side mean that it is less than *ambient* pressure, i.e. is there
> air being sucked into system? Does this mean that there is a leak on
> the low pressure side (just prior to the pump)? Does it also indicate
> a severe leak and is there only air in the system now, and no
> refrigerant? Lastly, is this type of a leak generally fixable or is
> the unit dead and should be replaced?
>
> I've probably forgotten some critical information to include; will
> include it as requested, but hopefully this is something to start
> with.
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>



Posted by B-Hate-Me on July 15, 2006, 2:13 pm

> Most good running AC systems run about 60 PSI on the low side.

Ever heard of sub-cooling or superheat?

I didn't think so.

Stormy sings "Amazing Grace" and when the song's over
he stops charging the unit.

If he get's it wrong, well...........It's god's will .



Posted by aka-SBM on July 15, 2006, 11:20 pm

>
>> Most good running AC systems run about 60 PSI on the low side.
>

Had to ask Stormy...

What do you do when the suction side is about 90PSI?
I mean...its 110 in the house, but......

LOL


> Ever heard of sub-cooling or superheat?
>
> I didn't think so.
>
> Stormy sings "Amazing Grace" and when the song's over
> he stops charging the unit.
>
> If he get's it wrong, well...........It's god's will .
>



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