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contractor licensing The King 12-28-2008
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Posted by KJPRO on December 28, 2008, 8:34 pm

> KJPRO wrote:
>>> http://www.nationalcontractors.com/licensing/
>>> Interesting how many states like SD, NY and some others have no hvac
>>> license requirements. That explains a lot.
>> Yep, that's one problem.
> I think if the wholesalers would stop selling to just anyone [look at the
> internet for example] it would clean out a lot of [bootleggers.]


People are in business to make a profit... some don't care what it takes to
make a profit. Cut corners, crappy work, cut one job to get it while ripping
the next guy.
Untrained people replacing equipment that isn't bad.. the list goes on and
on. It's the way most companies operate.. it's a sad world we live in. It's
cheaper to replace than to train employees.



Posted by Don Ocean on December 29, 2008, 3:22 am
KJPRO wrote:
>> KJPRO wrote:
>>>> http://www.nationalcontractors.com/licensing/
>>>> Interesting how many states like SD, NY and some others have no hvac
>>>> license requirements. That explains a lot.
>>> Yep, that's one problem.
>> I think if the wholesalers would stop selling to just anyone [look at the
>> internet for example] it would clean out a lot of [bootleggers.]
>
>
> People are in business to make a profit... some don't care what it takes to
> make a profit. Cut corners, crappy work, cut one job to get it while ripping
> the next guy.
> Untrained people replacing equipment that isn't bad.. the list goes on and
> on. It's the way most companies operate.. it's a sad world we live in. It's
> cheaper to replace than to train employees.

I just saw a survey of companies across America that are cutting
training and reducing hiring as a part of their cost cutting programs.
That is all industries. These are the big companies.. Which tells me the
small companies with trained and experience people have a good
opportunity to take a lot of business from these guys as they are also
cutting back on advertising.
>
>

Posted by Don Ocean on December 29, 2008, 3:18 am
Zyp wrote:
> KJPRO wrote:
>>> http://www.nationalcontractors.com/licensing/
>>> Interesting how many states like SD, NY and some others have no hvac
>>> license requirements. That explains a lot.
>> Yep, that's one problem.
>
> I think if the wholesalers would stop selling to just anyone [look at the
> internet for example] it would clean out a lot of [bootleggers.]

When a distributorship like Johnstone supply etc have a many $million
inventory... They are in the business of moving product and they don't
really care who ponies up the cash. You get the best wholesale by being
a mass product buyer. Do you even have a clue as to how much these guys
end up eating of having a cutrate sale each year. Reality is Reality.
If I owned stock in any of these.. i wouldn't want it any other way.

>

Posted by Don Ocean on December 29, 2008, 3:13 am
KJPRO wrote:
>> http://www.nationalcontractors.com/licensing/
>> Interesting how many states like SD, NY and some others have no hvac
>> license requirements. That explains a lot.
>
> Yep, that's one problem.

Strange we have had 2 companies put out of business by having their
licenses lifted in the last five years. Climate Masters(Big) and
Hustadts(9 service guys).
>
>

Posted by Don Ocean on December 29, 2008, 2:58 am
The King wrote:
> http://www.nationalcontractors.com/licensing/
>
> Interesting how many states like SD, NY and some others have no hvac
> license requirements. That explains a lot.

Amazingly enough I have had a South Dakota License since they came out
in 1993. The test takes an entire day just for the masters and a half a
day for the contractors and you don't work without both. Minimum
requirements are 2 years of Votech or college associates in same... 4
years apprentice. 2 years Journeyman and one year masters. Tell me again
what your resume is? I have held a Minnesota Boiler and HVAC license for
many more years then that. My Engineers registry goes back a few decades
in several states. I think you are getting senile and miss not being
able to ride your motorcycle any longer.. So you make a lot of wind and
a lot of very ignorant and stupid trolls here. By the way, I cannot find
your license registry. I don't think it exists and what I told you about
not holding an active contractors while another contractor is
responsible is very true and you are a liar.

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