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first time home owner electirc base heat no ac or heat pump what to do? ryanterry 04-04-2007
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Posted by on April 6, 2007, 10:37 am

>> Im sorry i apparently stuck a nerve with you. i was only asking a
>> simple question. as i stated in my first post I know nothing about
>> heat pumps.
>> for all i know you buy a i dont know TRANE system that is all ready to
>> install on your house. i had no idea that your installer puts the
>> system together in your yard. forgive me for my ignorance.
>> I thought that is what this forum was for to help people who do not
>> know. i guess i was wrong.
>Struck a nerve? (No)
>Am I trying to inform you *WHY* the brand doesn't matter? (Yes)
>Do you understand this isn't *plug a play* equipment? (Not yet)
>Can you see that *every home* doesn't require the same size unit? (hope so)
>Do you know *who* sizes these units? (It's not the manufacture... it's your
>HVAC company)
>Is there other aspect to this equipment that is assembled on site? (Yes)
>(That's part of manufacturing, by your HVAC company)
>Is this equipment going to operate correctly if the installer skips, or
>doesn't do a required step? (Most likely)
>Is it going to effect your comfort, operational cost and equipment
>reliability? (Sure is)
>Really it comes down to this... whatever system ends up in your home, the
>name brand is really the same as the HVAC company that installed it. They
>are the ones who took parts for a system and finished the manufacturing
>process at your home. They are the ones that set it up. They are the ones
>who are going to guarantee the equipment. They are the ones that are going
>to guarantee your comfort. They are the ones *you* are depending on for your
>personal *piece of mind*.
>Does the components of this system really matter to them? (Not really)
>Why? (Cause if they are true professionals, they can design & install a
>system for you with *any* brand of equipment)
>Do they stock parts for *every* brand? (Not likely)
>Do they stock parts for one or two brands they sell *most of the time*?
>(Most likely)
>Do they *prefer* a particular brand? (Most likely)
>Is any of this starting to make sense? ( ____________ )
>If not, I'm wasting my time trying to make you understand that the equipment
>brand means NOTHING!!!!!



Kenny, you are seriously mis-informed, and as such, really have no
business in the business. You're beginning to have as much
credibility as the stormin moron.

http://www.homeinspectionplus.com/HSeries.pdf








>And just think, I'm *NOT* even trying to sell you one *single* item.
>But what I am doing, is giving you very important information so that you
>*can* make a wise and informed decision.
>*ALL FOR FREE!!!!!!!*
>Wow, now there's a concept... someone helping someone else for free. Someone
>they know nothing about. Just trying to guide them into making a wise choice
>for their homes heating and cooling system.


Posted by on April 6, 2007, 11:54 pm

> >> Im sorry i apparently stuck a nerve with you. i was only asking a
> >> simple question. as i stated in my first post I know nothing about
> >> heat pumps.
> >> for all i know you buy a i dont know TRANE system that is all ready to
> >> install on your house. i had no idea that your installer puts the
> >> system together in your yard. forgive me for my ignorance.
> >> I thought that is what this forum was for to help people who do not
> >> know. i guess i was wrong.
> >Struck a nerve? (No)
> >Am I trying to inform you *WHY* the brand doesn't matter? (Yes)
> >Do you understand this isn't *plug a play* equipment? (Not yet)
> >Can you see that *every home* doesn't require the same size unit? (hope
so)
> >Do you know *who* sizes these units? (It's not the manufacture... it's
your
> >HVAC company)
> >Is there other aspect to this equipment that is assembled on site? (Yes)
> >(That's part of manufacturing, by your HVAC company)
> >Is this equipment going to operate correctly if the installer skips, or
> >doesn't do a required step? (Most likely)
> >Is it going to effect your comfort, operational cost and equipment
> >reliability? (Sure is)
> >Really it comes down to this... whatever system ends up in your home, the
> >name brand is really the same as the HVAC company that installed it. They
> >are the ones who took parts for a system and finished the manufacturing
> >process at your home. They are the ones that set it up. They are the ones
> >who are going to guarantee the equipment. They are the ones that are
going
> >to guarantee your comfort. They are the ones *you* are depending on for
your
> >personal *piece of mind*.
> >Does the components of this system really matter to them? (Not really)
> >Why? (Cause if they are true professionals, they can design & install a
> >system for you with *any* brand of equipment)
> >Do they stock parts for *every* brand? (Not likely)
> >Do they stock parts for one or two brands they sell *most of the time*?
> >(Most likely)
> >Do they *prefer* a particular brand? (Most likely)
> >Is any of this starting to make sense? ( ____________ )
> >If not, I'm wasting my time trying to make you understand that the
equipment
> >brand means NOTHING!!!!!
> Kenny, you are seriously mis-informed, and as such, really have no
> business in the business.


Yeah, sorry.... like manufacture RECALLS are the normal everyday
occurrence... with only certain brands!!!


BTW, just HOW many brands where marketed with the same safety issue?

Wheatherking
Arcoaire
Coleman
Olsen
Franklin Electric
Hamilton Electric
Johnstone
Comfort Aire
Heatmaster
Sun Glow
Sundial
American Best Goettl
Amana
Northrup
Duo-matic-Olsen
Airco
Liberty
Keeprite
Premier
P.F.C.
American Standard
ACPO
Bard
Trane
GMC
Janitrol
Century
Magic Chef
Sunburst
&
Kenmore

Yep, better not sell any of these brands as they are ALL garbage!!!!

If you actually believe your bullshit, you better hang it up yourself old
timer. You're starting to lose your gasp on reality.






> You're beginning to have as much
> credibility as the stormin moron.
> http://www.homeinspectionplus.com/HSeries.pdf
> >And just think, I'm *NOT* even trying to sell you one *single* item.
> >But what I am doing, is giving you very important information so that you
> >*can* make a wise and informed decision.
> >*ALL FOR FREE!!!!!!!*
> >Wow, now there's a concept... someone helping someone else for free.
Someone
> >they know nothing about. Just trying to guide them into making a wise
choice
> >for their homes heating and cooling system.



Posted by Tony on April 8, 2007, 9:06 am
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Ryan I am not HVAC man and what I am going to say
you can take it for what ever you wish
Heat pump is good idea however do not eliminate=20
Electric base board heaters you may find it very handy
yes it maybe expensive if you use all of them
remember ( I will assumed that are hooked up on individual Tst.)
there for you need put on only those where you need the heat
central unit will heat the whole house and part that you do not use.
If you decide to get furnace do not get oil go with gas
as far what is more beneficial that is debatable.
Dido

>I just purchased a 1700 square foot rancer one floor with partial
> finished basement. the house has complete southern exposure to the sun
> tall trees and shade in the front. there is base board electric heat
> in all rooms and window ac units. there is also a wood burning stove
> (not a fire place) in the basement. 13 windows in all on the first
> floor. i am replacing them all with efficient windows. the house is
> located in elkton maryland. it is a water based community with fair
> temps year round lowest it gets in winter is mid to upper 20s
> occassianlly and highest is 90s occassionally. humidity is ungodly
> high in the summer and ungodly dry in the winter.
>=20
> I do not know much about heat pumps and i need advise on what to get
> i.e. name brand should i use the base board heat along with the heat
> pump or tie in the wood stove to heat the house? is it better to go
> with elec gas or oil with the cost of petrol being what is it and will
> be in the future is elec more cost effective?
>=20
> help please and if you guys know of a GOOD RELIABLE HONEST hvac
> installer in the region i live that would be great.
>=20
> thanks
> RyanTerry
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