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Posted by Bob Pietrangelo on August 22, 2006, 9:18 pm
> Why 3k, the furnace costs about $1000, materials maybe $200 so you make
> $1300 for less than a days work. I just had one done for approx $2400 (not
> Goodman) including a 10 year warranty. Easy access (bsmt) and 2 x 20' 2"
> PVC. He said he normally charges $2900 but business was slow in the
> summer.
Roy, I get about 4K to install a variable speed 90, and 3.3K for a 80% vs
furnace. I provide for 7 families including my own, with a good living
wage, all benefits, 1-2 weeks vaca, outings and parties, bonus', etc. I
also cover my overhead which is about $360K per year. My payroll is 7k per
week.
1300 X 5 = 6500 doesn't even cover my payroll, much less my overhead, and
hell, who needs a profit.
But, hell you are one cheap son of a bitch to want to deny my workers enough
money to feed their families and go on a vacation once a year.
I hope your guy has a good retirement plan, and has someone picked out to
pick up where he left off. And.......what kind of idiot doesn't install AC
in the summer.
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Posted by Jake on August 22, 2006, 10:01 pm
> And.......what kind of idiot doesn't install AC
> in the summer.
>
>
Bob... it's the 'Wal-Mart' mentality... I believe.
But my comment was this: A guy that doesn't install AC in the summer is
most likely someone who doesn't know how....
... and if he hasn't taken the time and effort to do that.. then I
certainly wouldn't want him installing gas appliances in my home.
But that's just me...
Jake
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Posted by on August 22, 2006, 10:37 pm
"Bob Pietrangelo" wrote:
> And.......what kind of idiot doesn't install AC
>in the summer.
A very special kind, lol.
In Ca, a licensed Plumber (C-36) is allowed to do heating work, as
back when the license laws were created, hydronic heating played a
large part. Today, many licensed plumbing companies also do ac
(illegally, unless they also carry a C-20 HVAC license). So its not
uncommon to see drain cleaning companies also doing hvac work....
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Posted by Roy on August 23, 2006, 2:20 am
>> Why 3k, the furnace costs about $1000, materials maybe $200 so you make
>> $1300 for less than a days work. I just had one done for approx $2400
>> (not Goodman) including a 10 year warranty. Easy access (bsmt) and 2 x
>> 20' 2" PVC. He said he normally charges $2900 but business was slow in
>> the summer.
> Roy, I get about 4K to install a variable speed 90, and 3.3K for a 80% vs
> furnace. I provide for 7 families including my own, with a good living
> wage, all benefits, 1-2 weeks vaca, outings and parties, bonus', etc. I
> also cover my overhead which is about $360K per year. My payroll is 7k
> per week.
> 1300 X 5 = 6500 doesn't even cover my payroll, much less my overhead, and
> hell, who needs a profit.
> But, hell you are one cheap son of a bitch to want to deny my workers
> enough money to feed their families and go on a vacation once a year.
And what do you deny your customers by charging them $300/hr when they
probably make less than $25/hr?
> I hope your guy has a good retirement plan, and has someone picked out to
> pick up where he left off. And.......what kind of idiot doesn't install
> AC in the summer.
This is a one-man shop, Overhead is about nil, If he installs 3 furnaces a
month he is making a living wage. Add a few service calls and he's doing
very well. Not bad for maybe 5 days work a month.
The kind of idiot who doesn't install AC is one who lives in an area where
maybe 1 out of 1000 homes uses AC or HP's.
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Posted by tech on August 23, 2006, 2:31 am
> >> Why 3k, the furnace costs about $1000, materials maybe $200 so you make
> >> $1300 for less than a days work. I just had one done for approx $2400
> >> (not Goodman) including a 10 year warranty. Easy access (bsmt) and 2 x
> >> 20' 2" PVC. He said he normally charges $2900 but business was slow in
> >> the summer.
> > Roy, I get about 4K to install a variable speed 90, and 3.3K for a 80%
vs
> > furnace. I provide for 7 families including my own, with a good living
> > wage, all benefits, 1-2 weeks vaca, outings and parties, bonus', etc. I
> > also cover my overhead which is about $360K per year. My payroll is 7k
> > per week.
> > 1300 X 5 = 6500 doesn't even cover my payroll, much less my overhead,
and
> > hell, who needs a profit.
> > But, hell you are one cheap son of a bitch to want to deny my workers
> > enough money to feed their families and go on a vacation once a year.
> And what do you deny your customers by charging them $300/hr when they
> probably make less than $25/hr?
> > I hope your guy has a good retirement plan, and has someone picked out
to
> > pick up where he left off. And.......what kind of idiot doesn't install
> > AC in the summer.
> This is a one-man shop, Overhead is about nil, If he installs 3 furnaces a
> month he is making a living wage. Add a few service calls and he's doing
> very well. Not bad for maybe 5 days work a month.
If that's true, he's charging to much for his services or he isn't running a
shop with insurance and the required tools to operate a legit business!
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> $1300 for less than a days work. I just had one done for approx $2400 (not
> Goodman) including a 10 year warranty. Easy access (bsmt) and 2 x 20' 2"
> PVC. He said he normally charges $2900 but business was slow in the
> summer.