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heat pump thermostat question ONJ 12-03-2007
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Posted by Zyp on December 6, 2007, 2:09 am
ONJ wrote:
>> What you don't know is that I worked on heat pumps ( and lots
>> of other HVAC/R ) for 15 years, plus owning several, including one
>> now, and I know how they work, plus I hold 5 Statewide Masters
>> licenses in the trade, whereas you don't.
>
> Wow...and you still don't have a clue about common sense.
>
> Let me ask you something, do your customers know you think so lowly
> of them?
> And you can still have licenses and be a hack.
>
>> Now, if you want to argue the point - go argue it somewhere
>> else, because NONE I repeat NONE of the techs here ( and most of the
>> regulars are ), with 10 - 20 - + years background each, agree with
>> you. Maybe you know more about heat pumps than all of us combined.
>> Good for you. Go ahead and argue against 200 + years of combined
>> experience here working on heat pumps, see how far it gets you.
>>
>> Then again, if you did, you wouldn't be asking your question,
>> would you ?
>
> LOL...the question was if anyone knew of the lowest cost thermostat
> that would accomplish my task...not knowledge on heat pumps....what a
> moron.

Look fool, if you want to "just run the electrics" then switch the
thermostat over to emergency heat. Oh and BTW, get out your credit card,
you'll need it.

--
Zyp



Posted by cnc'sam on December 6, 2007, 3:30 am

> ONJ wrote:
> >> What you don't know is that I worked on heat pumps ( and lots
> >> of other HVAC/R ) for 15 years, plus owning several, including one
> >> now, and I know how they work, plus I hold 5 Statewide Masters
> >> licenses in the trade, whereas you don't.
> >
> > Wow...and you still don't have a clue about common sense.
> >
> > Let me ask you something, do your customers know you think so lowly
> > of them?
> > And you can still have licenses and be a hack.
> >
> >> Now, if you want to argue the point - go argue it somewhere
> >> else, because NONE I repeat NONE of the techs here ( and most of the
> >> regulars are ), with 10 - 20 - + years background each, agree with
> >> you. Maybe you know more about heat pumps than all of us combined.
> >> Good for you. Go ahead and argue against 200 + years of combined
> >> experience here working on heat pumps, see how far it gets you.
> >>
> >> Then again, if you did, you wouldn't be asking your question,
> >> would you ?
> >
> > LOL...the question was if anyone knew of the lowest cost thermostat
> > that would accomplish my task...not knowledge on heat pumps....what a
> > moron.
>
> Look fool, if you want to "just run the electrics" then switch the
> thermostat over to emergency heat. Oh and BTW, get out your credit card,
> you'll need it.
>

Actually, suggest simply pull the disco or shutoff the breaker ( or jerk
the heat pump condensor altogether and replace with straight AC) .

While he's at it might as well torch a couple ten spot every week and
fucking toss them out the car window.

--




Posted by ONJ on December 14, 2007, 9:12 am
> ONJ wrote:
>>> What you don't know is that I worked on heat pumps ( and lots
>>> of other HVAC/R ) for 15 years, plus owning several, including one
>>> now, and I know how they work, plus I hold 5 Statewide Masters
>>> licenses in the trade, whereas you don't.
>>
>> Wow...and you still don't have a clue about common sense.
>>
>> Let me ask you something, do your customers know you think so lowly
>> of them?
>> And you can still have licenses and be a hack.
>>
>>> Now, if you want to argue the point - go argue it somewhere
>>> else, because NONE I repeat NONE of the techs here ( and most of the
>>> regulars are ), with 10 - 20 - + years background each, agree with
>>> you. Maybe you know more about heat pumps than all of us combined.
>>> Good for you. Go ahead and argue against 200 + years of combined
>>> experience here working on heat pumps, see how far it gets you.
>>>
>>> Then again, if you did, you wouldn't be asking your question,
>>> would you ?
>>
>> LOL...the question was if anyone knew of the lowest cost thermostat
>> that would accomplish my task...not knowledge on heat pumps....what a
>> moron.
>
> Look fool, if you want to "just run the electrics" then switch the
> thermostat over to emergency heat.

Thats obvious. I am talking about the times when I'm away and the outdoor
temp is hovering over the point where the HP no longer can bring the indoor
temp up. If the low for the day is 0 degrees(and this is an air heat pump
mind you and not one of the newer multistage units) and the high is around
lower 20s...then of course I don't want the strips running when its in the
20's.

But I've found the stat I'm looking for that will do this now.



Posted by Noon-Air on December 3, 2007, 4:19 pm

>I bought a house that has a newly installed Trane air heat pump and an
>electric furnace emergency backup.
>
> As far as I'm concerned I don't want the HVAC company that installed it to
> look at it as they want to charge me for an incompetent setup.
>
> The way its set up is the heat pump runs whenever the stat is calling for
> heat...even down below temps in the teens and colder when the heat pump is
> obviously useless...it still runs along with the electric furnace. This
> is a horrible waste of electricity and I figure is costing me about 30%
> more on my electric bill when the outside temp is that cold.
>
> Anyone know of a thermostat that I can install that is inexpensive as
> possible that will lock the heat pump out when the electric furnace kicks
> on? Or one that I can install an outside sensor and the heat pump kicks
> off at a certain temp and tells the backup to run?
>
> Thanks

You got 3 choices... you can call the installer to come out and correct any
problems, or you can call a competent, licensed HVAC tech to come out and
correct any problems, or you can live with it.

FWIW, the heat pump and strip heat are doing what they were designed to do,
and thats to maintain a constant, even temperature in your home. If you
don't like it, have it ripped out and go back with propane or oil heat and
let the oil companies bend you over.



Posted by ONJ on December 3, 2007, 5:20 pm
>
>>I bought a house that has a newly installed Trane air heat pump and an
>>electric furnace emergency backup.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned I don't want the HVAC company that installed it
>> to look at it as they want to charge me for an incompetent setup.
>>
>> The way its set up is the heat pump runs whenever the stat is calling for
>> heat...even down below temps in the teens and colder when the heat pump
>> is obviously useless...it still runs along with the electric furnace.
>> This is a horrible waste of electricity and I figure is costing me about
>> 30% more on my electric bill when the outside temp is that cold.
>>
>> Anyone know of a thermostat that I can install that is inexpensive as
>> possible that will lock the heat pump out when the electric furnace kicks
>> on? Or one that I can install an outside sensor and the heat pump kicks
>> off at a certain temp and tells the backup to run?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> You got 3 choices... you can call the installer to come out and correct
> any problems, or you can call a competent, licensed HVAC tech to come out
> and correct any problems, or you can live with it.

Or I can get a proper thermostat and outdoor sensor and do it myself. Its
not that hard, just didn't know which thermostat to use or what is
available.

dont HVAC techs just hate it when normal people can do what they can do?
Must really suck.



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