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heat pump thermostat question ONJ 12-03-2007
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Posted by Simon Schnizzard on December 5, 2007, 9:56 pm

> On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:28:56 -0800, "Simon Schnizzard"
>
> >
> >> >
> >> > Actually I doubt Noon has ever had to actually understand and apply
heat
> >> > pump heating performance charts.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mind you, I'm not talking about the credible techs with real
> >> knowledge...just a few hacks that have no business being in the
> >> business...like p.jm, Bubba and Noon-Air
> >>
> >
> >Hey shithead appears you sure can read between the lines and stretch
things
> >when it suits your agenda.
> >
> >All of the above including Noon have a high level of technical expertise,
> >just that Noon happens to live in an area where heat pumps rarely if ever
> >even go into defrost mode.
>
> I bet Stormy could help him out ....
>

Hi Paul,

Yeah well--even though the OP has gotta be one of the biggest fucking morons
ever that done took a wrong turn on the information superhighway and ended
up in this friggen dump I still dont think he's deserved of that idiot
mormon.

As to Steve, I would ask him how many KW of electric strip he came up with
there on his last job but really dont matter whether its manually calced or
software is used theres still not much harm in overkill and beings as
appears he has me plonked over some teasing about gas furnaces costing 7K or
some shit then no sense in it anyways anyways.

Best to just install max amount of electric strips that the service panel
and funance can accept...<G>

Antways, cheers......

--

SVL










Posted by Zyp on December 6, 2007, 2:10 am
ONJ wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a house that has a newly installed Trane air heat pump and
>>> an electric furnace emergency backup.
>>>
>>> As far as I'm concerned I don't want the HVAC company that
>>> installed it to look at it as they want to charge me for an
>>> incompetent setup. The way its set up is the heat pump runs whenever the
>>> stat is
>>> calling for heat...even down below temps in the teens and colder
>>> when the heat pump is obviously useless...it still runs along with
>>> the electric furnace. This is a horrible waste of electricity and I
>>> figure is costing me about 30% more on my electric bill when the
>>> outside temp is that cold. Anyone know of a thermostat that I can
>>> install that is inexpensive
>>> as possible that will lock the heat pump out when the electric
>>> furnace kicks on? Or one that I can install an outside sensor and
>>> the heat pump kicks off at a certain temp and tells the backup to
>>> run? Thanks
>>
>> You got 3 choices... you can call the installer to come out and
>> correct any problems, or you can call a competent, licensed HVAC
>> tech to come out and correct any problems, or you can live with it.
>
> Or I can get a proper thermostat and outdoor sensor and do it myself.
> Its not that hard, just didn't know which thermostat to use or what is
> available.
>
> dont HVAC techs just hate it when normal people can do what they can
> do? Must really suck.

If you can do it, then do it. Why do you need to ask?

--
Zyp



Posted by cnc'sam on December 6, 2007, 3:41 am

> ONJ wrote:
> >
> > dont HVAC techs just hate it when normal people can do what they can
> > do? Must really suck.
>
> If you can do it, then do it. Why do you need to ask?
>

No why is he asking here just he should fucking do it.

Charge to show up for an hour here my guy is ~$60

Yap yap ya I can hear it now what kinda tech would work for so cheap but
save your chompers.

yep he's the subject of 2 lawsuits and several complaints to the BBB.

But he's paid his fucking dues and beings as he got t-boned by a sheriff's
deputy and sitting pretty happy working by himself instead of running 5
techs and 7 trucks then he can pick and choose.

--











Posted by Stormin Mormon on December 6, 2007, 8:08 am
Well, if you don't know which thermostat to use.... maybe that knowledge is
part of the reason why HVAC guys get training, and experience?

Why should guys go through apprenticeship and seminars, and then tell you
for free what they paid to learn?

--

Christopher A. Young;
.
.

>
> Or I can get a proper thermostat and outdoor sensor and do it myself.
> Its not that hard, just didn't know which thermostat to use or what is
> available.
>



Posted by jamesgangnc on December 4, 2007, 7:55 am
The heat pump will be cheaper heat that the resistance heat just about all
the time. Natural gas heat becomes cheaper sooner. Get a natural gas
backup if you really want to save when it gets real cold. And they will set
it up so it completely cuts over based on an outside temp.

>I bought a house that has a newly installed Trane air heat pump and an
>electric furnace emergency backup.
>
> As far as I'm concerned I don't want the HVAC company that installed it to
> look at it as they want to charge me for an incompetent setup.
>
> The way its set up is the heat pump runs whenever the stat is calling for
> heat...even down below temps in the teens and colder when the heat pump is
> obviously useless...it still runs along with the electric furnace. This
> is a horrible waste of electricity and I figure is costing me about 30%
> more on my electric bill when the outside temp is that cold.
>
> Anyone know of a thermostat that I can install that is inexpensive as
> possible that will lock the heat pump out when the electric furnace kicks
> on? Or one that I can install an outside sensor and the heat pump kicks
> off at a certain temp and tells the backup to run?
>
> Thanks
>



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