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my competition gofish 05-15-2007
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Posted by Jake on May 15, 2007, 8:49 pm
Fish,

I just HAD to reply to this one...

Don't take it personally they're shopping around. Things are tough these
days and it's better they appreciate YOU more when they see someone
else's work. That has always been my experience when you're good at what
you do.

If you customer doesn't recognize that, then you don't need them anyway.
They'll be a PITA to you.

My company has continued to grow, at a decent clip, because I'm always
fair and always consistent. Don't get on their asses because they asked
someone else to dance... that's when they find out who dances best.

As for Paul's comments... well, in all due respect, Paul... things are a
lot different out here economy-wise than they were. People WILL NOT, in
most circumstances, invest in new commercial equipment until it cannot
ever, ever be fixed again. That's sad... and terribly inefficient, but
that's the way it is. Eventually, energy will become so awfully
expensive that becomes more of a concern, but it isn't right now... and
that's what modern business folks worry about. Surviving...

I fix old, outdated crap all the time. As someone posted, stuff built 20
years ago is one hell of a lot 'sturdier' than the junk manufactured
today. Equipment built 30 years ago will run almost indefinitely with
the right care and proper application.

Is it correct, or even smart? No. But it's what people do to get by....

end of rant..

Jake





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Posted by on May 15, 2007, 9:24 pm

> Fish,
>
> I just HAD to reply to this one...
>
> Don't take it personally they're shopping around. Things are tough these
> days and it's better they appreciate YOU more when they see someone
> else's work. That has always been my experience when you're good at what
> you do.
>
> If you customer doesn't recognize that, then you don't need them anyway.
> They'll be a PITA to you.
>
> My company has continued to grow, at a decent clip, because I'm always
> fair and always consistent. Don't get on their asses because they asked
> someone else to dance... that's when they find out who dances best.
>
> As for Paul's comments... well, in all due respect, Paul... things are a
> lot different out here economy-wise than they were. People WILL NOT, in
> most circumstances, invest in new commercial equipment until it cannot
> ever, ever be fixed again. That's sad... and terribly inefficient, but
> that's the way it is. Eventually, energy will become so awfully
> expensive that becomes more of a concern, but it isn't right now... and
> that's what modern business folks worry about. Surviving...
>
> I fix old, outdated crap all the time. As someone posted, stuff built 20
> years ago is one hell of a lot 'sturdier' than the junk manufactured
> today. Equipment built 30 years ago will run almost indefinitely with
> the right care and proper application.
>
> Is it correct, or even smart? No. But it's what people do to get by....
>
> end of rant..
>
> Jake


Very true, most commercial accounts will pay BIG bucks for repair before a
replacement happens. They will end up paying more in a few years, but they
never take that into consideration.




Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski on May 16, 2007, 12:33 am

>
> > Fish,
> >
> > I just HAD to reply to this one...
> >
> > Don't take it personally they're shopping around. Things are tough these
> > days and it's better they appreciate YOU more when they see someone
> > else's work. That has always been my experience when you're good at what
> > you do.
> >
> > If you customer doesn't recognize that, then you don't need them anyway.
> > They'll be a PITA to you.
> >
> > My company has continued to grow, at a decent clip, because I'm always
> > fair and always consistent. Don't get on their asses because they asked
> > someone else to dance... that's when they find out who dances best.
> >
> > As for Paul's comments... well, in all due respect, Paul... things are a
> > lot different out here economy-wise than they were. People WILL NOT, in
> > most circumstances, invest in new commercial equipment until it cannot
> > ever, ever be fixed again. That's sad... and terribly inefficient, but
> > that's the way it is. Eventually, energy will become so awfully
> > expensive that becomes more of a concern, but it isn't right now... and
> > that's what modern business folks worry about. Surviving...
> >
> > I fix old, outdated crap all the time. As someone posted, stuff built 20
> > years ago is one hell of a lot 'sturdier' than the junk manufactured
> > today. Equipment built 30 years ago will run almost indefinitely with
> > the right care and proper application.
> >
> > Is it correct, or even smart? No. But it's what people do to get by....
> >
> > end of rant..
> >
> > Jake
>
>
> Very true, most commercial accounts will pay BIG bucks for repair before a
> replacement happens. They will end up paying more in a few years, but they
> never take that into consideration.
>

Counter intuitave then to fucking install something that was MADE IN THE
USA....and where the OEM stocks WEAR parts ?

--








Posted by Jake on May 16, 2007, 8:00 pm
> Counter intuitave then to fucking install something that was MADE IN THE
> USA....and where the OEM stocks WEAR parts ?
>
> --
>

Well, I dunno, Sam.

Commercial/Industrial equipment does have 'wear parts'. Bearings will
need occasional replacement, starters need re-furbed or replaced, all
that sort of thing.

... and it isn't just American Manufacturers, either. It's dictated by
what people will pay for things. I own several Caterpillar lift
trucks... sounds American, right? They're made in Texas by....
Mitsubishi... and they're good trucks, for the most part.

But here's what's happened to industry all over. I called my Cat dealer
recently bitching that we have to replace steer axle king pins in these
trucks about once a year. They're the 10,000 pound lift class. We run
them near capacity (and maybe over sometimes... transformers are heavy).

The dealer told me ALL the new lift trucks are designed for 85 percent
capacity continuous, and 100 percent load 25 percent of the time. They
used to be designed for 125 percent capacity ALL the time.

I see the same thing with motors. Give me an old Reliance, Delco or
Baldor... re-bearing the thing and it will run forever... because it was
designed to... 115-125 percent rated CONTINUOUS. You won't find that in
a heavy-duty motor today... in a temperature rating that is realistic...
except maybe the Toshiba 100+ HP models.

People claim that equipment designed to capacity, and that's all.. is
more energy efficient. I don't think so. The stuff breaks down faster,
usually has to be tossed out and a new thing purchased. What does it
cost... in energy terms, to transport all this crap, install it, haul it
away when it fails and then recycle it?

Geeze... you guys got TWO rants out of me in TWO days. I must be having
a bad week...

Jake

Posted by on May 16, 2007, 8:04 pm
wrote:

>
>Geeze... you guys got TWO rants out of me in TWO days. I must be having
>a bad week...
>
>Jake

        Sounds like you got your ranties all in a bunch .....


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