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my most important customer ever Nathan In Montana 10-02-2006
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Posted by on October 5, 2006, 12:33 pm
"Nathan In Montana" wrote:

>> I cannot help it if you've lived under a rock all your life and cant
>> think of a single company capable other than halliburton.
>>
>> listing any for you would be pointless.
>
>TRANSLATION --> "i cannot list anybody"
>
>of course you cant, i already knew this because there is nobody else. dont
>let your hatred for bush blind you across the board.


horseshit Nathan, and you know it. I cant imagine youve ever heard
of Flour-Daniel or Turner Construction. Now go ahead and argue
neither of these could have done the same job, as we both know thats
whats next. The fact remains it was a politically motivated no-bid
contract and you, I & the rest of the world will never know who could
have been potential bidders.

btw, my "hatred" as you say isnt aimed at shrub per se, its aimed at
the grossly incompetent people he seems to surround himself with.

take that idiot rummies-field for example. As grossly incompetent as
he is, he will never be shit-canned for one political reason:
confirmation hearings on his replacement would open up the whole
iraq-war-fiasco to congressional scrutiny. Heaven forbid the rest of
the world find out how grossly incompetent the shrub administration
is.

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Posted by Steve Scott on October 5, 2006, 4:23 pm
Turner is primarily building construction w/about $7B gross sales and
5,500 employees. Not really set up to rebuild the oil and public
infrastructure.

Fluor does work in the petroleum field as well as construction. Had
$13B gross in 2005 and has about 35,000 employees.

Haliburton services the petroleum industry and does general
construction. $21B gross in 2005 w/85,000 employees.

Which one would be better suited to the task of rebuilding a country's
infrastructure which includes oil wells, pipelines, roads, bridges,
buildings, etc?

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:33:24 GMT, gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:

> "Nathan In Montana" wrote:
>
>>> I cannot help it if you've lived under a rock all your life and cant
>>> think of a single company capable other than halliburton.
>>>
>>> listing any for you would be pointless.
>>
>>TRANSLATION --> "i cannot list anybody"
>>
>>of course you cant, i already knew this because there is nobody else. dont
>>let your hatred for bush blind you across the board.
>
>
> horseshit Nathan, and you know it. I cant imagine youve ever heard
>of Flour-Daniel or Turner Construction. Now go ahead and argue
>neither of these could have done the same job, as we both know thats
>whats next. The fact remains it was a politically motivated no-bid
>contract and you, I & the rest of the world will never know who could
>have been potential bidders.
>
>btw, my "hatred" as you say isnt aimed at shrub per se, its aimed at
>the grossly incompetent people he seems to surround himself with.
>
>take that idiot rummies-field for example. As grossly incompetent as
>he is, he will never be shit-canned for one political reason:
>confirmation hearings on his replacement would open up the whole
>iraq-war-fiasco to congressional scrutiny. Heaven forbid the rest of
>the world find out how grossly incompetent the shrub administration
>is.


--
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your world.





Posted by on October 5, 2006, 7:42 pm
Steve Scott wrote:

>Turner is primarily building construction w/about $7B gross sales and
>5,500 employees. Not really set up to rebuild the oil and public
>infrastructure.
>
>Fluor does work in the petroleum field as well as construction. Had
>$13B gross in 2005 and has about 35,000 employees.
>
>Haliburton services the petroleum industry and does general
>construction. $21B gross in 2005 w/85,000 employees.
>
>Which one would be better suited to the task of rebuilding a country's
>infrastructure which includes oil wells, pipelines, roads, bridges,
>buildings, etc?
>


the one that was awarded the bid from a field of competitive bidders,
NOT the one with a history of ineptness & corruption.

OBTW, just how is halliburton doing anyway? wells & pipelines up &
running? Nope. Iraqi oil paying for the reconstruction? Nope. Cost
overruns? Yup. Maybe you're thrilled bankrupting your childrens
future, myself, I'm not.

Posted by Nathan In Montana on October 5, 2006, 8:28 pm
> the one that was awarded the bid from a field of competitive bidders,

bidders must first be capable of the job theyre bidding on. neither of the
companies you listed is, and im still waiting on a _viable_ alternative to
haluburton.


> OBTW, just how is halliburton doing anyway?

far better than anyone else in the world could be doing at this point.


> wells & pipelines up &
> running? Nope.

specifically, what wells and pipelines are behind schedule?


> Iraqi oil paying for the reconstruction? Nope.

please quote a source.


> Cost
> overruns? Yup.

completely normal and to be expected on a job of this nature, so i wont even
question this statement.

--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Tech.com
http://GlockCarry.com



Posted by Nathan In Montana on October 5, 2006, 8:23 pm
> horseshit Nathan, and you know it.

what i know is that nobody else in the world could have stepped up and done
what haliburton has done.


> I cant imagine youve ever heard
> of Flour-Daniel

of course i have. once upon a time i was a structural welder for daniels.
they arent even comparable with haliburton.


> or Turner Construction.

although i never worked for them, see above.


> Now go ahead and argue
> neither of these could have done the same job, as we both know thats
> whats next.

because we both know thats the bottom line.


> The fact remains it was a politically motivated no-bid
> contract and you, I & the rest of the world will never know who could
> have been potential bidders.

we absolutely do know. neither daniels nor turner are capable of rebuilding
an entire country.......certainly not on any sense of reasonable timeline.
id be willing to bet that the bin laden group is more capable than either of
the companies you listed, and even they arent capable of a job that big.
haliburton was and still is the only company in the entire world capable of
this undertaking. youre speaking out of emotion with complete disregard to
the facts of the matter. in as much as you liberals would LOVE to hang bush
on ANYTHING, if there was a basis for what you say there would have already
been impeachment hearings on the entire matter and you know it. the
liberals who know better use this to play on the liberals who dont know any
better. so long as it will fuel their fire, it doesnt matter if its
complete bullshit to begin with.


> take that idiot rummies-field for example. As grossly incompetent as
> he is,

idiot? imcompetent? please list SPECIFICALLY what he has done that makes
him either. dont generalize, tell me EXACTLY why he is an incompetent
idiot, and not because cnn said so.


> he will never be shit-canned for one political reason:
> confirmation hearings on his replacement would open up the whole
> iraq-war-fiasco to congressional scrutiny.

bah......that has NEVER protected anyone before. he wont be shit canned
because despite your liberal propaganda, you cant tell me (_specifically_)
what he has done wrong.



> Heaven forbid the rest of
> the world find out how grossly incompetent the shrub administration
> is.

that statement is silly. most of the world hates us anyway out of sheer
jealousy of our quality of life. i couldnt possibly care any less how the
rest of the world views us.

......now according to the rule book, when you call a liberal to task on his
political propaganda, your next step is to start calling me names and
attacking me personally to hide your lack of a valid response to my very
specific questions. i look forward to your response.

--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Tech.com
http://GlockCarry.com



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