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Posted by on October 6, 2006, 6:46 am
"Nathan In Montana" wrote:
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>hmmmm......what say you now, gofish?
the same thing I've said before Nathan.
you ascribe to a dictatorship, I prefer a democracy.
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Posted by Steve Scott on October 6, 2006, 9:24 am
I'm seriously asking here, Fish. In what way has your life or the
life of anyone you personally know been restricted by Bush?
I know you to some extent and I'm willing to accept that you seriously
feel your life has been hampered in some fashion, but for the life of
me I can't imagine how.
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:46:30 GMT, gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
>you ascribe to a dictatorship, I prefer a democracy.
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Change your thoughts and you change
your world.
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on October 7, 2006, 3:37 pm
Well, the US has never been a democracy. It was founded as a
constitutional republic.
And, second, yes GWB has removed freedoms from the US people. Patriot
Act (which he pushed through congress and then signed). And the
assorted executive orders.
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
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I'm seriously asking here, Fish. In what way has your life or the
life of anyone you personally know been restricted by Bush?
I know you to some extent and I'm willing to accept that you seriously
feel your life has been hampered in some fashion, but for the life of
me I can't imagine how.
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:46:30 GMT, gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
>you ascribe to a dictatorship, I prefer a democracy.
--
Change your thoughts and you change
your world.
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Posted by Nathan In Montana on October 7, 2006, 5:01 pm
> yes GWB has removed freedoms from the US people.
please STOP with the sweeping generic statements. please tell me
_specifically_ what freedoms were taken away. key word = specifically.
please dont waste our time by trying to bullshit me with anything you cannot
list specifically.
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Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Tech.com
http://GlockCarry.com
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Posted by Power's Mechanical on October 7, 2006, 7:01 pm
Nathan In Montana wrote:
> > yes GWB has removed freedoms from the US people.
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> please STOP with the sweeping generic statements. please tell me
> _specifically_ what freedoms were taken away. key word = specifically.
> please dont waste our time by trying to bullshit me with anything you cannot
> list specifically.
>
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political
institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror
investigations.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once- public immigration
hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and
has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of
any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed
information related to a terror investigation.
RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison
jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers
to Americans accused of crimes.
FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize
Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror
investigation.
RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans
indefinitely without a trial.
RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or
being able to confront witnesses against them.
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