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newly installed central ac Djavdet 05-26-2007
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Posted by Djavdet on May 27, 2007, 11:19 am
> > i have a contract saying designed 70 on a day 90 for cooling , is
> > that good enough?
> > and i guess it covers your joke about house being warmer 20 degees
> > than outside huh? :-)
>
> So, being the temperature where you live was 94 degrees at 5:00 PM Friday,
> you are trying to say that the house was 89 degrees with your "only 5 degree
> difference" and you didn't open the windows until Mr. contractor could get
> there ?

Yes that's what i say about temperature in the house. contractor
hasn't been back yet since i didn't call them trying to get more
educated about central ac and what to expect and apply on the real
situation in the house. no i did not open windows why? to make
situation even worse?

> > what else could they do? the guy came over i let him walking all over
> > the house, he looked up the heating system sized the house and said
> > it's all cool , we can do it! what else should i be asking him?
> > the contractor assured me that they performed all needed sizing and
> > calculations. in fact i had 2 different ones coming and magically
> > their numbers matched... that's why i kinda trusted the last one and
> > let them do the job.
>
> >>What kind of thermostat did you get?
> >> They may need to replace it with a better one.
>
> > no, they replaced old one with new wireless one, with all cool led
> > display and nice buttons..
>
> LED's? Bet that eats batteries. You probably mean LCD.

yeah, sure it's my bad it's lcd.. interesting, you did not comment my
story above? can you say anythig? is that how all contractors work or
it's just my "cheapest" one? and there is alot more they usually do?

> >> Oh.... And how is that foundation doing? Did you ever figure out how
> >> there
> >> was a 16 year difference between the age of the house and foundation?
> >> Maybe
> >> I was on to something about not having insulation.
>
> > What are you talking about?
>
> Uhh... You bought the house in early 2004. It was supposedly built in
> '85.... That ring a few balls?

hmm it's about right, where is 16 year number's coming out from?

> > > First the heat don't work in your truck, and now the AC don't work
> > right in
> >> your house.
>
> > what's it have to do with my question? i even never had a truck, what
> > are you talking about?
>
> My bad. It's a Maxima. I guess that's not a truck. You had heat problems
> with it none the less.

well at least you could get correct info first before start joking
around... i don't care though.. as long as you provide any good info
i'm interested in...


> >> And of course, you don't like the prices that you pay for anything.
>
> > sure i don't who does?
> > are you running some sort of background check on me?
>
> But of course! That's the first thing that is done.

what for? are you doing it on everyone who posts in this group? why?

> > i thought i could get some real advice on the freaking cenral ac!
> > D
>
> Nope. That's what AHR is for. Oh, but wait ..... you already posted there.

jeez, why are trying to guess what i'm doing instead of just ask me?
if you think it's wrong group to post my question why didn't you
simply say so?
normally it's much better to ask in several different groups in
related areas to get faster and broader information.

> BTW: "How fast can you get 10F drop in your house?" isn't what you are
> after. Fast is bad, as usual. Also, think about the fact that the heating
> system is 12 years old. That means the original was replaced 10 years after
> the house was built. That should have told you something about what should
> have been done when you went to ADD AC to it.- Hide quoted text -


Not exactly. i asked about how fast the guy can cool the house down to
compare what he has. so i could have at least some numbers....
yes i thought about 12 years old blower, so? according the contractor
they did not do anything to it and i assumed that pressure the blower
produces does not change after ac is installed or changes
insignificantly, am i wrong?
your guessed 10 years don't tell me anything, can you clarify what you
mean by those "calculations"? designed lifespan for the heater 20
year. it says on the manuall.. are you suggesting that it is too old?


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Posted by -zero on May 27, 2007, 1:38 pm


*> well at least you could get correct info first before start joking
*> around... i don't care though.. as long as you provide any good info
*> i'm interested in...

http://home.howstuffworks.com/ac.htm

You'll need to learn what components are generally involved, only then
will any discussion about them amount to anything useful to you.

After you've read and digested the above link, go here and explore:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPID,HPID:2006-18,HPID:en&q=how+air+conditioners+work

(this really should just be the alt.hvac standard signature line <g>)
-zero



Posted by Djavdet on May 27, 2007, 4:27 pm
>
>
> *> well at least you could get correct info first before start joking
> *> around... i don't care though.. as long as you provide any good info
> *> i'm interested in...
>
> http://home.howstuffworks.com/ac.htm
>
> You'll need to learn what components are generally involved, only then
> will any discussion about them amount to anything useful to you.
>
> After you've read and digested the above link, go here and explore:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPI...
>
> (this really should just be the alt.hvac standard signature line <g>)
> -zero

thanks for the link, 99% i already knew, did not help ... however the
information about relation between pressure humidity and temperature
is insteresting but still don't give much help...
D


Posted by Bubba on May 27, 2007, 9:46 pm

>> > i have a contract saying designed 70 on a day 90 for cooling , is
>> > that good enough?
>> > and i guess it covers your joke about house being warmer 20 degees
>> > than outside huh? :-)
>>
>> So, being the temperature where you live was 94 degrees at 5:00 PM Friday,
>> you are trying to say that the house was 89 degrees with your "only 5 degree
>> difference" and you didn't open the windows until Mr. contractor could get
>> there ?
>
>Yes that's what i say about temperature in the house. contractor
>hasn't been back yet since i didn't call them trying to get more
>educated about central ac and what to expect and apply on the real
>situation in the house. no i did not open windows why? to make
>situation even worse?

Ya know djavdet,
You can fool some of the people all of the time but you cant fool me
any of the time. You story is shit! If you had an A/C just installed
and it wasnt coolingl right, your ass would be on the phone instantly,
holiday or not. You bought a Goodman on the internet, you and a friend
put it in and now it doesnt work right. You saved what you thought was
a lot of money and got exactly what you paid for. Now spend that money
you saved and have an actual HVAC company come in and fix your screw
ups and shut the hell up.
Yes, you can leave now.
Bubba
>
>> > what else could they do? the guy came over i let him walking all over
>> > the house, he looked up the heating system sized the house and said
>> > it's all cool , we can do it! what else should i be asking him?
>> > the contractor assured me that they performed all needed sizing and
>> > calculations. in fact i had 2 different ones coming and magically
>> > their numbers matched... that's why i kinda trusted the last one and
>> > let them do the job.
>>
>> >>What kind of thermostat did you get?
>> >> They may need to replace it with a better one.
>>
>> > no, they replaced old one with new wireless one, with all cool led
>> > display and nice buttons..
>>
>> LED's? Bet that eats batteries. You probably mean LCD.
>
>yeah, sure it's my bad it's lcd.. interesting, you did not comment my
>story above? can you say anythig? is that how all contractors work or
>it's just my "cheapest" one? and there is alot more they usually do?
>
>> >> Oh.... And how is that foundation doing? Did you ever figure out how
>> >> there
>> >> was a 16 year difference between the age of the house and foundation?
>> >> Maybe
>> >> I was on to something about not having insulation.
>>
>> > What are you talking about?
>>
>> Uhh... You bought the house in early 2004. It was supposedly built in
>> '85.... That ring a few balls?
>
>hmm it's about right, where is 16 year number's coming out from?
>
>> > > First the heat don't work in your truck, and now the AC don't work
>> > right in
>> >> your house.
>>
>> > what's it have to do with my question? i even never had a truck, what
>> > are you talking about?
>>
>> My bad. It's a Maxima. I guess that's not a truck. You had heat problems
>> with it none the less.
>
>well at least you could get correct info first before start joking
>around... i don't care though.. as long as you provide any good info
>i'm interested in...
>
>
>> >> And of course, you don't like the prices that you pay for anything.
>>
>> > sure i don't who does?
>> > are you running some sort of background check on me?
>>
>> But of course! That's the first thing that is done.
>
>what for? are you doing it on everyone who posts in this group? why?
>
>> > i thought i could get some real advice on the freaking cenral ac!
>> > D
>>
>> Nope. That's what AHR is for. Oh, but wait ..... you already posted there.
>
>jeez, why are trying to guess what i'm doing instead of just ask me?
>if you think it's wrong group to post my question why didn't you
>simply say so?
>normally it's much better to ask in several different groups in
>related areas to get faster and broader information.
>
>> BTW: "How fast can you get 10F drop in your house?" isn't what you are
>> after. Fast is bad, as usual. Also, think about the fact that the heating
>> system is 12 years old. That means the original was replaced 10 years after
>> the house was built. That should have told you something about what should
>> have been done when you went to ADD AC to it.- Hide quoted text -
>
>
>Not exactly. i asked about how fast the guy can cool the house down to
>compare what he has. so i could have at least some numbers....
>yes i thought about 12 years old blower, so? according the contractor
>they did not do anything to it and i assumed that pressure the blower
>produces does not change after ac is installed or changes
>insignificantly, am i wrong?
>your guessed 10 years don't tell me anything, can you clarify what you
>mean by those "calculations"? designed lifespan for the heater 20
>year. it says on the manuall.. are you suggesting that it is too old?

Posted by Djavdet on May 27, 2007, 11:47 pm
> Ya know djavdet,
> You can fool some of the people all of the time but you cant fool me
> any of the time. You story is shit! If you had an A/C just installed
> and it wasnt coolingl right, your ass would be on the phone instantly,
> holiday or not. You bought a Goodman on the internet, you and a friend
> put it in and now it doesnt work right. You saved what you thought was
> a lot of money and got exactly what you paid for. Now spend that money
> you saved and have an actual HVAC company come in and fix your screw
> ups and shut the hell up.
> Yes, you can leave now.

hmm happy now? told me off huh? i did not lie a single line..how 'bout
that?
i 'm amazed, a plummer tells me "shut up"..ahh...i'll go hang
myself....
D
PS: what 'bout first time, did you believe me first time when you
replied?


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