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non vented water heater gofish 12-13-2006
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Posted by on December 13, 2006, 1:04 pm
60,000 btu gas fired water heater installed by others 4-5 years ago.

3" b-vent dovetails into 4" single wall right at the ceiling line.
the 4" was capped off after it penetrated the roof. total length of
venting is 8 feet

eventually the 4" single wall corroded to the point it split open,
which then dumped the product of combustion into the attic area.

could the non-vented water heater cause water hammer?

Posted by New Directions In Building Ser on December 13, 2006, 3:11 pm
> 60,000 btu gas fired water heater installed by others 4-5 years ago.
>
> 3" b-vent dovetails into 4" single wall right at the ceiling line.
> the 4" was capped off after it penetrated the roof. total length of
> venting is 8 feet
>
> eventually the 4" single wall corroded to the point it split open,
> which then dumped the product of combustion into the attic area.
>
> could the non-vented water heater cause water hammer?

No - that's probably the death throws of the occupants (including animal
life in the roof)
Re the water hammer - lots of times the bracketing works loose or external
pipe insulation shrinks back over time, or someone buys an appliance which
has solenoid water controls (like a washing machine) - check out the
brackets(should be one every metre/3ft or so), insulation and if it's an
appliance causing it - fit a water hammer arrester (pipe piece with a
diaphram & spring).
As for the venting - no wonder it corroded through!!! It's possibly
marginally safer now that it's venting to the roof than when the flue was
capped and the carbon monoxide and nitros oxide was being vented at the
heater itself - but this NEEDS to flued to outside properly.

Speaking of hot water - we've had people in commercial and medical buildings
who thought that rather than fit thermostatic mixing valves, they'd reduce
the hot water temperature at the heating unit from 70degC/160degF to about
50degC/120degF and after a few incidents of legionnella (showers & spa
baths) they looked up the Standards and found that the building hot water
supply must retain the capability of delivering 60degC/140degF water at the
most disadvantaged hot water outlet and this must occur within 60 seconds of
opening the hot water supply cock (you need 60degC/140degF hot water to
provide an effective kill of legionella).



Posted by Bubba on December 13, 2006, 5:49 pm
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:04:33 GMT, gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:

>60,000 btu gas fired water heater installed by others 4-5 years ago.
>
>3" b-vent dovetails into 4" single wall right at the ceiling line.
>the 4" was capped off after it penetrated the roof. total length of
>venting is 8 feet
>
>eventually the 4" single wall corroded to the point it split open,
>which then dumped the product of combustion into the attic area.
>
>could the non-vented water heater cause water hammer?

No
Yes
Maybe
Bubba

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