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servo drive 1055/80 monarch burner cdd 03-06-2008
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Posted by cdd on March 6, 2008, 1:25 am
Have been working on a monarch burner and have been having some
trouble with the operation of the servo drive - there is adjustable
cams on it
and so far I understand 4 of them. this is a 3 stage burner on a grain
dryer
and the cams 1-6 control air and fuel trigger points- The burner
starts on 2
jets until it reaches it's set point in the plenum chamber then cuts
back to 1
jet- for this too happen the servo needs to operate and turn about 12
degrees
to reduce the combustion air and turn off the 2nd jet- this is where
the problem
has occurred servo doesn't want to return- as I don't know what cam
controls this
part- I know the cam that turns the second jet on/off but unsure how
to set it to react
with the thermostat

the servo cams are 1-
2-
3-sets air for medium fire (2 jets)
4-low air setting-this seems to control
only the amount of air when the burner
shutting down
5-
6- trigger for 3rd jet to operate ( the
third jet is activated by a manual
switch which triggers the 2nd and 3rd
jet to work together (winter)

As you can see I"m short on info any help from someone who has worked
on these before
would be great

Posted by HVACGod on March 6, 2008, 9:25 am

> Have been working on a monarch burner and have been having some
> trouble with the operation of the servo drive - there is adjustable
> cams on it
> and so far I understand 4 of them. this is a 3 stage burner on a grain
> dryer
> and the cams 1-6 control air and fuel trigger points- The burner
> starts on 2
> jets until it reaches it's set point in the plenum chamber then cuts
> back to 1
> jet- for this too happen the servo needs to operate and turn about 12
> degrees
> to reduce the combustion air and turn off the 2nd jet- this is where
> the problem
> has occurred servo doesn't want to return- as I don't know what cam
> controls this
> part- I know the cam that turns the second jet on/off but unsure how
> to set it to react
> with the thermostat
>
> the servo cams are 1-
> 2-
> 3-sets air for medium fire (2 jets)
> 4-low air setting-this seems to control
> only the amount of air when the burner
> shutting down
> 5-
> 6- trigger for 3rd jet to operate ( the
> third jet is activated by a manual
> switch which triggers the 2nd and 3rd
> jet to work together (winter)
>
> As you can see I"m short on info any help from someone who has worked
> on these before
> would be great

You have any numbers on the equipment - specifically the drive? I'll also
forward this to a guy that specializes in this equipment.



Posted by HVACGod on March 6, 2008, 6:36 pm

>
>> Have been working on a monarch burner and have been having some
>> trouble with the operation of the servo drive - there is adjustable
>> cams on it
>> and so far I understand 4 of them. this is a 3 stage burner on a grain
>> dryer
>> and the cams 1-6 control air and fuel trigger points- The burner
>> starts on 2
>> jets until it reaches it's set point in the plenum chamber then cuts
>> back to 1
>> jet- for this too happen the servo needs to operate and turn about 12
>> degrees
>> to reduce the combustion air and turn off the 2nd jet- this is where
>> the problem
>> has occurred servo doesn't want to return- as I don't know what cam
>> controls this
>> part- I know the cam that turns the second jet on/off but unsure how
>> to set it to react
>> with the thermostat
>>
>> the servo cams are 1-
>> 2-
>> 3-sets air for medium fire (2 jets)
>> 4-low air setting-this seems to control
>> only the amount of air when the burner
>> shutting down
>> 5-
>> 6- trigger for 3rd jet to operate ( the
>> third jet is activated by a manual
>> switch which triggers the 2nd and 3rd
>> jet to work together (winter)
>>
>> As you can see I"m short on info any help from someone who has worked
>> on these before
>> would be great
>
> You have any numbers on the equipment - specifically the drive? I'll also
> forward this to a guy that specializes in this equipment.
>

My friends reply to your OP:

"I am guessing that it has a Siemens control and servo control? Or is it
Honeywell or Fireye?
This is a Canadian manufactured burner correct? Bright red? I have info on
the Siemens and Honeywell and could did up Fireye if I had ####'s".

Like I said, gonna need numbers.




Posted by cdd on March 6, 2008, 11:55 pm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Have been working on a monarch burner and have been having some
> >> trouble with the operation of the servo drive - there is adjustable
> >> cams on it
> >> and so far I understand 4 of them. this is a 3 stage burner on a grain
> >> dryer
> >> and the cams 1-6 control air and fuel trigger points- The burner
> >> starts on 2
> >> jets until it reaches it's set point in the plenum chamber then cuts
> >> back to 1
> >> jet- for this too happen the servo needs to operate and turn about 12
> >> degrees
> >> to reduce the combustion air and turn off the 2nd jet- =A0this is where=

> >> the problem
> >> has occurred servo doesn't want to return- as I don't know what cam
> >> controls this
> >> part- I know the cam that turns the second jet on/off but unsure how
> >> to set it to react
> >> with the thermostat
>
> >> the servo cams are 1-
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02-
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03-sets air for m=
edium fire (2 jets)
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04-low air settin=
g-this seems to control
> >> only the amount of air when the burner
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 shutting do=
wn
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05-
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06- trigger for 3=
rd jet to operate ( the
> >> third jet is activated by a manual
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0switch w=
hich triggers the 2nd and 3rd
> >> jet to work together (winter)
>
> >> As you can see =A0I"m short on info any help from someone who has worke=
d
> >> on these =A0before
> >> would be great
>
> > You have any numbers on the equipment - specifically the drive? I'll als=
o
> > forward this to a guy that specializes in this equipment.
>
> My friends reply to your OP:
>
> "I am guessing that it has a Siemens control and servo control? Or is it
> Honeywell or Fireye?
> This is a Canadian manufactured burner correct? Bright red? I have info on=

> the Siemens and Honeywell and could did up Fireye if I had ####'s".
>
> Like I said, gonna need numbers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I will have the numbers in a day or so(got portables to do) -yes it is
a bright red burner
and the servo drive is a Siemens I am pritty sure. I have found some
info on it and the
1055/23 but only the pin outs and nothing about the burner-weishaupt
won't tell me anything
about it so any help will be greatly apprieciated.

Posted by cdd on March 9, 2008, 11:14 pm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
.
> > >> Have been working on a monarch burner and have been having some
> > >> trouble with the operation of the servo drive - there is adjustable
> > >> cams on it
> > >> and so far I understand 4 of them. this is a 3 stage burner on a grai=
n
> > >> dryer
> > >> and the cams 1-6 control air and fuel trigger points- The burner
> > >> starts on 2
> > >> jets until it reaches it's set point in the plenum chamber then cuts
> > >> back to 1
> > >> jet- for this too happen the servo needs to operate and turn about 12=

> > >> degrees
> > >> to reduce the combustion air and turn off the 2nd jet- =A0this is whe=
re
> > >> the problem
> > >> has occurred servo doesn't want to return- as I don't know what cam
> > >> controls this
> > >> part- I know the cam that turns the second jet on/off but unsure how
> > >> to set it to react
> > >> with the thermostat
>
> > >> the servo cams are 1-
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02-
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03-sets air for=
medium fire (2 jets)
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A04-low air sett=
ing-this seems to control
> > >> only the amount of air when the burner
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 shutting =
down
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05-
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06- trigger for=
3rd jet to operate ( the
> > >> third jet is activated by a manual
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0switch=
which triggers the 2nd and 3rd
> > >> jet to work together (winter)
>
> > >> As you can see =A0I"m short on info any help from someone who has wor=
ked
> > >> on these =A0before
> > >> would be great
>
> > > You have any numbers on the equipment - specifically the drive? I'll a=
lso
> > > forward this to a guy that specializes in this equipment.
>
> > My friends reply to your OP:
>
> > "I am guessing that it has a Siemens control and servo control? Or is it=

> > Honeywell or Fireye?
> > This is a Canadian manufactured burner correct? Bright red? I have info =
on
> > the Siemens and Honeywell and could did up Fireye if I had ####'s".
>
> > Like I said, gonna need numbers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I will have the numbers in a day or so(got portables to do) -yes it is
> a bright red burner
> and the servo drive is a Siemens I am pritty sure. I have found some
> info on it and the
> 1055/23 but only the pin outs and nothing about the burner-weishaupt
> won't tell me anything
> about it so any help will be greatly apprieciated.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Burner all up and running -had fault in one of the micro-switches.

Thank's for the input( 160kg of diesel per hour is a quite a big fire
really- hehe)

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