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silfos brazing advice dingus 10-17-2006
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Posted by dingus on October 17, 2006, 5:28 pm
I am trying to build my own super-efficient refrigerator and i want to
braze 1/4" tubing between the compressor, water-cooled condenser,
evaporator, etc. I have had lots of soldering experience and limited
welding experience.

Is it possible to braze 1/4" copper connections using solely MAPP gas
and the right torch tip? I have some Silfos 15 brazing rod i can use.
What temp flame do i need to successfully do this?

Any suggestions? Thanks!


Posted by Power's Mechanical on October 17, 2006, 5:39 pm

dingus wrote:
> I am trying to build my own super-efficient refrigerator and i want to
> braze 1/4" tubing between the compressor, water-cooled condenser,
> evaporator, etc. I have had lots of soldering experience and limited
> welding experience.
> Is it possible to braze 1/4" copper connections using solely MAPP gas
> and the right torch tip? I have some Silfos 15 brazing rod i can use.
> What temp flame do i need to successfully do this?
> Any suggestions? Thanks!

Yes Mapp gas will braze 1/4 no problem. If your going from copper to
steel Id sugest 45% silver instead of Silfos 15. Copper to copper and
SF 15 is fine. I doubt that your project is going to be super
efficient but have fun anyway.


Posted by Jake on October 17, 2006, 11:08 pm
> Yes Mapp gas will braze 1/4 no problem. If your going from copper to
> steel Id sugest 45% silver instead of Silfos 15. Copper to copper and
> SF 15 is fine. I doubt that your project is going to be super
> efficient but have fun anyway.
>


I dunno about doing copper-steel transitions with MAPP.

Lately, I've used the MAPP-Oxy combi rigs you can now buy anywhere....
Pretty good results to far.

Beats the hell out of dragging our big oxy-acet sets around for a little
sensor job or something.... and I can never find a smaller tip around
the shop, anyhow. I'm not a plumber, and putting a 1/4 stub into a line
for sensor can get 'tricky' with a #6 tip...

I don't use saddles....

Jake




Posted by on October 18, 2006, 9:59 am
Jake wrote:

..
>I don't use saddles....
>Jake

you ride your ponies bareback?

Posted by Power's Mechanical on October 18, 2006, 7:18 pm

Jake wrote:
> > Yes Mapp gas will braze 1/4 no problem. If your going from copper to
> > steel Id sugest 45% silver instead of Silfos 15. Copper to copper and
> > SF 15 is fine. I doubt that your project is going to be super
> > efficient but have fun anyway.
> I dunno about doing copper-steel transitions with MAPP.
Its 1/4 inch Jake.. No problem. Been there done that.

> Lately, I've used the MAPP-Oxy combi rigs you can now buy anywhere....
> Pretty good results to far.
> Beats the hell out of dragging our big oxy-acet sets around for a little
> sensor job or something.... and I can never find a smaller tip around
> the shop, anyhow. I'm not a plumber, and putting a 1/4 stub into a line
> for sensor can get 'tricky' with a #6 tip...
> I don't use saddles....

> Jake

Its just personal prefrence but I never have used an oxy/acy rig for my
regular job, I can but dont like them unless Im welding something.
Personal prefrence. I prefer a turbo torch for brazing and I use the
Mapp for soft solder on smaller water lines. Once I go over an inch
for soft solder (and thats pushing it) I use the turbo on a B tank.

BTW that Delphi thing... Fell through. Turns out they cant afford us.
LOL

I didnt care for that idea anyway. It seemed like treason to my UAW
pipefitter brothers.


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