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stupid nubee question regarding noisy compressor jthread 07-13-2007
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Posted by jthread on July 13, 2007, 9:12 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I've got a Amana Ultra Prestige compressor (?) (the thing outside, with
>>>>the
>>>>big fan, motor, coils and what sounds like a pump). Forgive me I just
>>>>moved
>>>>to Central TX from New Mexico where we are blessed to only need
>>>>evaporative
>>>>coolers.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, the thing outside is seems to be getting noisier. It's making a
>>>>rapid pumping noise around 180 to 240 bpm. Probably the sound of the
>>>>pump.
>>>>I
>>>>looked inside and all I saw was the big fan and what looks like a pump
>>>>wrapped up in a insulated blanket. Is there something I should do?
>>>>Should
>>>>I
>>>>just live with the noise and is this normal for an Amana to be on the
>>>>noisy
>>>>side? My house is under warranty and I'm not sure this would be covered
>>>>because the a/c seems to be working fine.
>>>>
>>>>In relationship to the other compressors in my neighborhood this one
>>>>seems
>>>>larger compared to other similar size homes. My neighbor has the same
>>>>size
>>>>house with a much smaller compressor.
>>>>
>>>>Oh yeah, another thing. I have an attic fan I just recently replaced. Do
>>>>these things actually help cut the cost of operating the a/c?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance and hopefully these questions don't sound too idiotic.
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sadly, they do. Try them in alt.home.repair.
>>
>>I think I'll take my chances here for awhile. I looked at some of your
>>other
>>posts and they don't seem too helpful either. :)
>>
>
> Life's a bitch.
>
> Now - fucking go away, and don't get fucking pissy about it.
> This is not a forum for clueless home-moaners.
>
You're a real charmer. I guess you won't be inviting me over for dinner
anytime soon.

Thanks but I'm sure there are civil people in *your* profession. A polite
non-response is really all I need from you. Have a nice day :)

Jim



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on July 13, 2007, 9:38 am

>>> Sadly, they do. Try them in alt.home.repair.
>>
>>I think I'll take my chances here for awhile. I looked at some of your
>>other
>>posts and they don't seem too helpful either. :)
>>
>
> Life's a bitch.
>
> Now - fucking go away, and don't get fucking pissy about it.
> This is not a forum for clueless home-moaners.

Shit. The guy isn't asking for free do-it-yourself advice. He's asking
your opinion as a supposed professional. "Is this normal? Do fans help?
Do I need a _professional_ to repair this?"

Jim, I'm not (yet) a "professional", just a student/helper/gofer in the
trade. But I've observed a few simple things: Larger units are _usually_
noisier than smaller units. Different brands make more racket for the same
cooling power than other brands.

And... attic fans do help if they don't "tunnel". Sometimes fans just suck
a tight stream of air from an inlet point - like a soffit vent - right out
the fan. In that case they do little to help. You can tell if your fan is
tunnelling or working correctly by doing some spot temperature measurements
in the attic (near the ceiling) both with the fan off for a few hours, and
with it on.

If, with it on, you don't have a substantial reduction in temperature over
most of the attic space - say, around 50F on a hot day, the fan's not
helping your power bill. If pretty much of the whole area gets cooled
uniformly, it will help. Usually, one fan isn't adequate to do it -- air is
difficult to move smoothly across truss members, so it tends mostly to move
up from the soffits to the peak, then pool there. You're more pulling out
that "pool" of hot air than anything else.

Radiant-barrier film between the roof and the attic space will help a LOT,
and it's fairly inexpensive to have installed professionally. Some outfits
in our area do it for roughly 30 cents per square foot, delivered and
installed.

DO use a pro for your A/C problems. Don't use Paul. He hates you.

Most pros would say, "We'll come out and take a look, but there will be a
charge for a service call." Paul says, "Fuck off, potential customer."

LLoyd


LLoyd


LLoyd


Posted by jthread on July 13, 2007, 10:24 am

>
>>>> Sadly, they do. Try them in alt.home.repair.
>>>
>>>I think I'll take my chances here for awhile. I looked at some of your
>>>other
>>>posts and they don't seem too helpful either. :)
>>>
>>
>> Life's a bitch.
>>
>> Now - fucking go away, and don't get fucking pissy about it.
>> This is not a forum for clueless home-moaners.
>
> Shit. The guy isn't asking for free do-it-yourself advice. He's asking
> your opinion as a supposed professional. "Is this normal? Do fans help?
> Do I need a _professional_ to repair this?"
>
> Jim, I'm not (yet) a "professional", just a student/helper/gofer in the
> trade. But I've observed a few simple things: Larger units are _usually_
> noisier than smaller units. Different brands make more racket for the
> same cooling power than other brands.
>
> And... attic fans do help if they don't "tunnel". Sometimes fans just
> suck a tight stream of air from an inlet point - like a soffit vent -
> right out the fan. In that case they do little to help. You can tell if
> your fan is tunnelling or working correctly by doing some spot temperature
> measurements in the attic (near the ceiling) both with the fan off for a
> few hours, and with it on.
>
> If, with it on, you don't have a substantial reduction in temperature over
> most of the attic space - say, around 50F on a hot day, the fan's not
> helping your power bill. If pretty much of the whole area gets cooled
> uniformly, it will help. Usually, one fan isn't adequate to do it -- air
> is difficult to move smoothly across truss members, so it tends mostly to
> move up from the soffits to the peak, then pool there. You're more
> pulling out that "pool" of hot air than anything else.
>
> Radiant-barrier film between the roof and the attic space will help a LOT,
> and it's fairly inexpensive to have installed professionally. Some
> outfits in our area do it for roughly 30 cents per square foot, delivered
> and installed.
>
> DO use a pro for your A/C problems. Don't use Paul. He hates you.
>
> Most pros would say, "We'll come out and take a look, but there will be a
> charge for a service call." Paul says, "Fuck off, potential customer."
>
> LLoyd

Thanks, I've posted in several ng and never had a problem getting help from
professionals. Fortunatly, there are nice people just about everywhere you
look. I'm not an angel either but that guy has some anger issues he needs to
work out. My first thought was. If he's such a expert in the field, why is
he wasting his time cussing out nubees in a ng? Uh... did he not see the
"stupid nubee question" in the header? Really, I was hoping he'd keep after
it. I kind of get a kick out of seeing just how far they will go. He sounds
like he is headed for a coronary or stroke.

I suspect you're right on with my attic fan because even when it's running
it's unbelievably hot in there. I'll look into the film barrier. A lot of
people here (central TX) have ridge vents installed. That's not cheap either
from what I understand.

If the a/c breaks down it's covered under my home owners warranty. If I call
a guy out here to look at it and there isn't anything wrong with it it's my
expense. I thought maybe there was something I could check. As long as it's
working, as well as it is now, I'll try to ignore the noise. I hoping it's
not bothering my neighbors.

Thanks again

Jim






Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on July 13, 2007, 11:02 am

> I suspect you're right on with my attic fan because even when it's running
> it's unbelievably hot in there. I'll look into the film barrier. A lot of
> people here (central TX) have ridge vents installed. That's not cheap
> either from what I understand.

OFF-ridge vents, though not quite as efficient as those on the ridge peak,
are quite effective, and well within a homowner's skill set to install. It
takes only a circular saw, hammer, roofing cement, and screws/nails. They're
not expensive, and cosmetically more pleasing to some because they can be
placed on the side of the roof that's away from the chosen "money view".
You can install as many as you've got energy to, without disrupting the
strength of the roof diaphram.

It's a job well-suited for the DIY group, because most roofers don't want to
do that small a job.

LLoyd


Posted by on July 13, 2007, 11:13 am
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:02:06 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

>
>> I suspect you're right on with my attic fan because even when it's running
>> it's unbelievably hot in there. I'll look into the film barrier. A lot of
>> people here (central TX) have ridge vents installed. That's not cheap
>> either from what I understand.
>
>OFF-ridge vents, though not quite as efficient as those on the ridge peak,
>are quite effective, and well within a homowner's skill set to install. It
>takes only a circular saw, hammer, roofing cement, and screws/nails. They're
>not expensive, and cosmetically more pleasing to some because they can be
>placed on the side of the roof that's away from the chosen "money view".
>You can install as many as you've got energy to, without disrupting the
>strength of the roof diaphram.
>
>It's a job well-suited for the DIY group, because most roofers don't want to
>do that small a job.
>
>LLoyd

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