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support of equipment problem geoman 08-08-2006
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Posted by geoman on August 8, 2006, 7:42 pm
Have to quote a job that has those big church beams and 2 x 4 tongue and
grove hardwood between them.

The problem is, its a flat roof, the boards won't support (at least I'm not
chancing it) a roof top unit.

I was thinking, straddle it across the big beam, supply on one side and the
return on the other and then run spiral metal duct.

If this can't be done, does anyone have an idea how we can put a beam on the
flat roof that would extend from one beam to the other, somehow build a curb
from that and put the unit on it? I guess I'm asking for experiences before
I go too far into the quote.

Rich



AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by on August 8, 2006, 9:35 pm
"geoman" wrote:

> Have to quote a job that has those big church beams and 2 x 4 tongue and
>grove hardwood between them.
>
>The problem is, its a flat roof, the boards won't support (at least I'm not
>chancing it) a roof top unit.
>
>I was thinking, straddle it across the big beam, supply on one side and the
>return on the other and then run spiral metal duct.
>
>If this can't be done, does anyone have an idea how we can put a beam on the
>flat roof that would extend from one beam to the other, somehow build a curb
>from that and put the unit on it? I guess I'm asking for experiences before
>I go too far into the quote.
>
>Rich
>

Rich I have tons & tons of experience in what you're asking about.
Are you positive its 2x4 t&g or 2x6? A full 2" or 1.5"?

Yes, feel comfortable straddling the beam with one pkg unit, sa & ra
on either side of the beam, esp if the unit weighs 700 lbs or so. No
more than one unit per beam.

As far as putting beams on the roof and building a curb up from that,
not a problem! I put a 15 ton on a flat roof, mid way between 2
4x12 purlins. The purlins were 20' long and the span between them was
8 feet, centerline. On the roof I put down 6x8 beams 8 feet long,
from center of purlin to center of purlin. On the 6x8's I mounted the
factory roof curb, then custom fabricated sloping plywood panels from
the roof to the top of the nailer on the curb. Mr roofer tied it all
together using 90# torch down granulated cap sheet. I got some killer
pix I can email you, showing the whole she-bang.

As for the spiral.......forget that. since its a church, high
profile, a lot of exposure, talk them into using DuctSox

http://www.ductsox.com/

Its a little pricey, but wow, talk about good looking, super easy to
install, throw in the washing machine to clean......recently partnered
with another contractor on a church bldg like that, 4 5 ton hp's
blowing into 4 40' long ductsox. air disperses on each side of the
ductsox, at about a 45 degree angle down

Posted by geoman on August 9, 2006, 8:41 am

> "geoman" wrote:
>
>> Have to quote a job that has those big church beams and 2 x 4 tongue
>> and
>>grove hardwood between them.
>>
>>The problem is, its a flat roof, the boards won't support (at least I'm
>>not
>>chancing it) a roof top unit.
>>
>>I was thinking, straddle it across the big beam, supply on one side and
>>the
>>return on the other and then run spiral metal duct.
>>
>>If this can't be done, does anyone have an idea how we can put a beam on
>>the
>>flat roof that would extend from one beam to the other, somehow build a
>>curb
>>from that and put the unit on it? I guess I'm asking for experiences
>>before
>>I go too far into the quote.
>>
>>Rich
>>
>
> Rich I have tons & tons of experience in what you're asking about.
> Are you positive its 2x4 t&g or 2x6? A full 2" or 1.5"?

Fish, Its a full 2 x 5 with insulation decking over that.

>
> Yes, feel comfortable straddling the beam with one pkg unit, sa & ra
> on either side of the beam, esp if the unit weighs 700 lbs or so. No
> more than one unit per beam.

Thats what I was thinking, and keep it as close to a support wall or post,
right?

>
> As far as putting beams on the roof and building a curb up from that,
> not a problem! I put a 15 ton on a flat roof, mid way between 2
> 4x12 purlins. The purlins were 20' long and the span between them was
> 8 feet, centerline. On the roof I put down 6x8 beams 8 feet long,
> from center of purlin to center of purlin. On the 6x8's I mounted the
> factory roof curb, then custom fabricated sloping plywood panels from
> the roof to the top of the nailer on the curb. Mr roofer tied it all
> together using 90# torch down granulated cap sheet. I got some killer
> pix I can email you, showing the whole she-bang.

That would be nice if you could send them too me. Let me make up a temporary
email and post it sometime today. I've been flooded with spam and havent had
much time lately to deal with it. I will post a junk email later today,

>
> As for the spiral.......forget that. since its a church, high
> profile, a lot of exposure, talk them into using DuctSox

>
> http://www.ductsox.com/
>
> Its a little pricey, but wow, talk about good looking, super easy to
> install, throw in the washing machine to clean......recently partnered
> with another contractor on a church bldg like that, 4 5 ton hp's
> blowing into 4 40' long ductsox. air disperses on each side of the
> ductsox, at about a 45 degree angle down

This is definately something I will look into, a LOT lighter as well and no
cutting etc. After labor its probably cheaper too.

ThanksFish
Rich



Posted by geoman on August 9, 2006, 4:08 pm
Theres a picture on the site you listed that shows the same type of roof
that I'm dealing with. I guess the building guy thinks the wood is 4 inch's
thick by 5 inchs wide. I don't agree, I think its a max of 2.5 thick.

Heres a picture of what it looks like
http://www.ductsox.com/ductsoxweb/DuctSoxLibrary.nsf/vLkupPhotoLargebyUNID/3048309A57506A8F86256C300066E0DE!OpenDocument

My new email for newsgroups WITHOUT the little dash !
tempemail-9778@yahoo.com

take the - out of the email or it wont go through.

Thanks Fish, Cant wait to see the pics

Rich




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