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temperature swing value Tony Sivori 04-15-2007
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Posted by Tony on April 16, 2007, 3:30 pm

> wrote:
>
>>
>>> CJT wrote:
>>>
>>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>>>>Would adding three degrees save noticeably (say, five to ten percent)
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>the heat and cooling bill?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> no
>>>>
>>>> I don't know about 5-10%, but it might result in noticeable savings.
>>>
>>> Would it save more with the central air than the gas heat?
>>
>>no
>>
>>> I'm no pro
>>> (obviously), but it is my understanding that the compressor draws the
>>> most
>>> amps on start ups.
>>
>>It takes a whole lot less energy to *maintain* a constant, even
>>temperature
>>than it does to keep jacking around with the temperature.
>
> Utter and complete bullshit. Who besides me disagrees with
> you ? The entire HVAC industry, including every manufacurer of
> PROGRAMMABLE SETBACK thermostats.

Paul you are full of you know what
Programmable setback for heat may work ok
but for cooling it is useless!!!!!!!
Dido say that

>
>> In my neck of the
>>woods, if you leave the a/c off for an 8 our work day, it takes a full 24
>>hours to bring the temperature and humidity levels back into your comfort
>
> No said fucking turn the thing off on a hot day in teh midle
> of summer. The question is setup / setback, not 'fucking turn it off
> all day'.
>
>>range. Remember, you not just cooling the air, but everything in the
>>house...walls, floors, ceilings, furniture, peoples, puppies, kitties,
>>etc.
>>
>
> --
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/



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Posted by on April 16, 2007, 3:58 pm

>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> CJT wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Noon-Air wrote:
> >>>>>>Would adding three degrees save noticeably (say, five to ten
percent)
> >>>>>>on
> >>>>>>the heat and cooling bill?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> no
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know about 5-10%, but it might result in noticeable savings.
> >>>
> >>> Would it save more with the central air than the gas heat?
> >>
> >>no
> >>
> >>> I'm no pro
> >>> (obviously), but it is my understanding that the compressor draws the
> >>> most
> >>> amps on start ups.
> >>
> >>It takes a whole lot less energy to *maintain* a constant, even
> >>temperature
> >>than it does to keep jacking around with the temperature.
> >
> > Utter and complete bullshit. Who besides me disagrees with
> > you ? The entire HVAC industry, including every manufacurer of
> > PROGRAMMABLE SETBACK thermostats.
>
> Paul you are full of you know what
> Programmable setback for heat may work ok
> but for cooling it is useless!!!!!!!
> Dido say that



I wouldn't say useless. It would depend on a lot of factors.




Posted by Tony on April 17, 2007, 9:04 pm

>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> CJT wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>> >>>>>>Would adding three degrees save noticeably (say, five to ten
> percent)
>> >>>>>>on
>> >>>>>>the heat and cooling bill?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> no
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't know about 5-10%, but it might result in noticeable savings.
>> >>>
>> >>> Would it save more with the central air than the gas heat?
>> >>
>> >>no
>> >>
>> >>> I'm no pro
>> >>> (obviously), but it is my understanding that the compressor draws the
>> >>> most
>> >>> amps on start ups.
>> >>
>> >>It takes a whole lot less energy to *maintain* a constant, even
>> >>temperature
>> >>than it does to keep jacking around with the temperature.
>> >
>> > Utter and complete bullshit. Who besides me disagrees with
>> > you ? The entire HVAC industry, including every manufacurer of
>> > PROGRAMMABLE SETBACK thermostats.
>>
>> Paul you are full of you know what
>> Programmable setback for heat may work ok
>> but for cooling it is useless!!!!!!!
>> Dido say that
>
>
>
> I wouldn't say useless. It would depend on a lot of factors.
>
>
Kypro you right it does depend on lot of factors!
I should not HAVE said totally useless ! Dido



Posted by on April 16, 2007, 4:29 pm

>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> CJT wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>>>>>Would adding three degrees save noticeably (say, five to ten percent)
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>the heat and cooling bill?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about 5-10%, but it might result in noticeable savings.
>>>>
>>>> Would it save more with the central air than the gas heat?
>>>
>>>no
>>>
>>>> I'm no pro
>>>> (obviously), but it is my understanding that the compressor draws the
>>>> most
>>>> amps on start ups.
>>>
>>>It takes a whole lot less energy to *maintain* a constant, even
>>>temperature
>>>than it does to keep jacking around with the temperature.
>>
>> Utter and complete bullshit. Who besides me disagrees with
>> you ? The entire HVAC industry, including every manufacurer of
>> PROGRAMMABLE SETBACK thermostats.
>
>Paul you are full of you know what
>Programmable setback for heat may work ok
>but for cooling it is useless!!!!!!!
>Dido say that


Bullshit Dido.
Outdoor temp=90 degrees,
cooling setpoint M-F 8am-5pm=72F
Sat & Sun cooling setpoint=99F

setback for cooling works !!



>
>>
>>> In my neck of the
>>>woods, if you leave the a/c off for an 8 our work day, it takes a full 24
>>>hours to bring the temperature and humidity levels back into your comfort
>>
>> No said fucking turn the thing off on a hot day in teh midle
>> of summer. The question is setup / setback, not 'fucking turn it off
>> all day'.
>>
>>>range. Remember, you not just cooling the air, but everything in the
>>>house...walls, floors, ceilings, furniture, peoples, puppies, kitties,
>>>etc.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>
>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
>


Posted by Tony on April 17, 2007, 9:08 pm

>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> CJT wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>>>>>>Would adding three degrees save noticeably (say, five to ten
>>>>>>>>percent)
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>the heat and cooling bill?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about 5-10%, but it might result in noticeable savings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it save more with the central air than the gas heat?
>>>>
>>>>no
>>>>
>>>>> I'm no pro
>>>>> (obviously), but it is my understanding that the compressor draws the
>>>>> most
>>>>> amps on start ups.
>>>>
>>>>It takes a whole lot less energy to *maintain* a constant, even
>>>>temperature
>>>>than it does to keep jacking around with the temperature.
>>>
>>> Utter and complete bullshit. Who besides me disagrees with
>>> you ? The entire HVAC industry, including every manufacurer of
>>> PROGRAMMABLE SETBACK thermostats.
>>
>>Paul you are full of you know what
>>Programmable setback for heat may work ok
>>but for cooling it is useless!!!!!!!
>>Dido say that
>
>
> Bullshit Dido.
> Outdoor temp=90 degrees,
> cooling setpoint M-F 8am-5pm=72F
> Sat & Sun cooling setpoint=99F
>
> setback for cooling works !!

If you are not home it works
but also in lot homes some one maybe home
all day and every day
Dido
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> In my neck of the
>>>>woods, if you leave the a/c off for an 8 our work day, it takes a full
>>>>24
>>>>hours to bring the temperature and humidity levels back into your
>>>>comfort
>>>
>>> No said fucking turn the thing off on a hot day in teh midle
>>> of summer. The question is setup / setback, not 'fucking turn it off
>>> all day'.
>>>
>>>>range. Remember, you not just cooling the air, but everything in the
>>>>house...walls, floors, ceilings, furniture, peoples, puppies, kitties,
>>>>etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>
>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
>>
>



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