Home Page link

120 to 12v conversion

Home Repair - - If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Otherwise look here. 

Page 1 of 5       1 2 3 > last >> Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
120 to 12v conversion Jimmie D 02-10-2008
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
Posted by Jimmie D on February 10, 2008, 12:43 am
I have 4 flourescent stairwell lights I would like to convert to low voltage
LED.
The existing lights are on a dedicated circuit. What I would like to do is
mount the low voltages power supply at the breaker panel and use the
existing wiring and 3 way switching to distribute the 12VDC to the LED
lights. The circuit draws olny about 400ma of current on the 12v side so I
intend to place a cartridge fuse on that side. Also I would like to place a
fuse on the 120VAC side of the power supply as I have seen these power
supplies smoke without tripping a 15 amp breaker. Are their any code
problems with doing this

Jimmie



AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by Tony Hwang on February 10, 2008, 1:04 am
Jimmie D wrote:

> I have 4 flourescent stairwell lights I would like to convert to low voltage
> LED.
> The existing lights are on a dedicated circuit. What I would like to do is
> mount the low voltages power supply at the breaker panel and use the
> existing wiring and 3 way switching to distribute the 12VDC to the LED
> lights. The circuit draws olny about 400ma of current on the 12v side so I
> intend to place a cartridge fuse on that side. Also I would like to place a
> fuse on the 120VAC side of the power supply as I have seen these power
> supplies smoke without tripping a 15 amp breaker. Are their any code
> problems with doing this
>
> Jimmie
>
>
Hi,
You can get 120V LED light of various colors and shape.

Posted by terry on February 10, 2008, 2:03 am
> Jimmie D wrote:
> > I have 4 flourescent stairwell lights I would like to convert to low vol=
tage
> > LED.
> > The existing lights are on a dedicated circuit. What I would like to do =
is
> > mount the low voltages power supply at the breaker panel and use the
> > existing wiring and 3 way switching to distribute the 12VDC to the LED
> > lights. The circuit draws olny about 400ma of current on the 12v side so=
I
> > intend to place a cartridge =A0fuse on that side. Also I would like to p=
lace a
> > fuse on the 120VAC side of the power supply as I have seen these power
> > supplies smoke without tripping a 15 amp breaker. Are their any code
> > problems with doing this
>
> > Jimmie
>
> Hi,
> You can get 120V LED light of various colors and shape.

If you pull (separate) the existing 120 volt wiring completely from
the circuit breaker panel; and assuming there are no other 120 volt
wires/switches etc. in those same switch boxes. Also that there are
no other 120 volt lights on that same circuit, one supposes that you
could use the conventional and existing wiring for low voltage?
But it could very confusing in the future even if the circuit was
clearly marked in each box as 'low voltage'?
One could also be concerned that since lighting loads are quite low, a
typical 15 amp 14AWG circuit is capable of 1800 watts of lighting (in
our house several rooms are on the one 15 amp lighting circuit
breaker!) that your intended same wiring also feeds 120 volt lights
in say a bedroom etc.?
Ingenious: But personally would avoid it if possible! As someone said
use 120 volt LEDs? At 120 volts that 400 m/a becomes 40 m/a??? Without
expense and possible fire risk of transformer/rectifiers which is
obviuosly a concern in view of the idea of adding a low amperage fuse/
circuit breaker for your transformer input?
BTW even 100m/a (tenth of an amp at 120 volts =3D 12 watts) even left on
all night for say 8 hours =3D 96 watt hours or approximately one tenth
of a kilowatt hour, energy consumption costing at typical North
American electricity rates rates something of the order of one cent or
less per night per night.
For $3.65 per year? Hardly seems worth the effort of installing more
apparatus etc.? If the transformer etc. costs say $50 the pay back
(assuming lights are left on all night?) in lower energy consumption
will take something of the order of 5-8 years? If only occasionally
the payabck will probably be 'never'.

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on February 10, 2008, 8:02 am

For $3.65 per year? Hardly seems worth the effort of installing more
apparatus etc.? If the transformer etc. costs say $50 the pay back
(assuming lights are left on all night?) in lower energy consumption
will take something of the order of 5-8 years? If only occasionally
the payabck will probably be 'never'.

Stairwell lights are not about money.

Considering that he has four, it may be a rental units. If a stairwell light
goes out, it is a code violation. It does not matter if it is an absentee
landlord and no one reports the light out, he still gets a fine. There is
also the time and trouble to change bulbs in stairwells. It may be very
difficult to reach. Payback can be the cost of one light out.



Posted by terry on February 10, 2008, 2:34 pm
>
> For $3.65 per year? Hardly seems worth the effort of installing more
> apparatus etc.? If the transformer etc. costs say $50 the pay back
> (assuming lights are left on all night?) in lower energy consumption
> will take something of the order of 5-8 years? If only occasionally
> the payabck will probably be 'never'.
>
> Stairwell lights are not about money.
>
> Considering that he has four, it may be a rental units. If a stairwell lig=
ht
> goes out, it is a code violation. =A0It does not matter if it is an absent=
ee
> landlord and no one reports the light out, he still gets a fine. =A0There =
is
> also the time and trouble to change bulbs in stairwells. =A0It may be very=

> difficult to reach. =A0Payback can be the cost of one light out.

Ah; more information. Maybe one of the posts is missing in the thread
I have been reading? Was not aware it was rental units and the
difficulty of reaching the light fixtures.!

Certainly would agree that in the case of landlord tenant relationship
reliable lighting could be important.

But even so; the use of low voltage transformer/rectifier and
modifying standard wiring for low voltage use sounds like it might not
conform and could perhaps confuse an electrician or inspector faced
with it later on.

Apart from cost the reliability of those low voltage transformers, the
extra fuses etc. etc.???? Maybe add an alarm in case something
misoperates?

Page 1 of 5       1 2 3 > last >>
Similar ThreadsPosted
Conversion to gas? ? ? May 8, 2008, 11:14 am
Tub to shower conversion September 30, 2006, 10:27 am
Sell HID Conversion Kit February 25, 2008, 1:28 am
Oil -> gas burner conversion March 21, 2008, 3:22 pm
Re: DTV Conversion tv commericials on TV? September 1, 2008, 8:10 pm
Re: DTV Conversion tv commericials on TV? September 2, 2008, 3:04 pm
Oil to Gas Conversion Burner September 14, 2008, 2:12 pm
need insulation help w/ garage conversion ... October 31, 2005, 5:33 pm
Steam Boiler conversion November 6, 2005, 7:28 pm
Swimming pool conversion June 9, 2006, 7:39 pm

Contact Us | Privacy Policy

XML SitemapXML Sitemap