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220 volt 3-wire vs. 4-wire M.Burns 05-11-2008
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Posted by Beachcomber on May 11, 2008, 2:05 pm

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>
>I will add that i think 3 wire is a bad idea, with a bad day it could
>be a real hazard....
>
>buy a new dryer? then get a new cord and updated outlet

Problem is - Many older houses are not wired for the updated outlet.
If you don't have the proper wiring at the outlet (2 hots - Neutral
-Ground), you are not allowed to install the 4 wire code-compliant
outlet (vs. the old 3 wire outlet). Hence the grandfather clause...

For many older houses - installing new dryer wiring would be difficult
(expensive) and involve pulling new wires and possibly ripping up
walls.

The NEC allowed the 3 wire exception to save on copper during WWII.
Then, one or two people got electrocuted by their dryers and they
decided to go back to 4 wire some years ago.

Apparently Canada never did this. Anyone know for sure?

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on May 11, 2008, 5:38 pm
On May 11, 2:05=EF=BF=BDpm, inva...@notreal.none (Beachcomber) wrote:
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >I will add that i think 3 wire is a bad idea, with a bad day it could
> >be a real hazard....
>
> >buy a new dryer? then get a new cord and updated outlet
>
> Problem is - =EF=BF=BDMany older houses are not wired for the updated outl=
et.
> If you don't have the proper wiring at the outlet (2 hots - Neutral
> -Ground), you are not allowed to install the 4 wire code-compliant
> outlet (vs. the old 3 wire outlet). =EF=BF=BDHence the grandfather clause.=
..
>
> For many older houses - installing new dryer wiring would be difficult
> (expensive) and involve pulling new wires and possibly ripping up
> walls.
>
> The NEC allowed the 3 wire exception to save on copper during WWII.
> Then, one or two people got electrocuted by their dryers and they
> decided to go back to 4 wire some years ago.
>
> =EF=BF=BD Apparently Canada never did this. =EF=BF=BDAnyone know for sure?=


for safety its likely worth the effort.

just look at all the other updates required today, GFCI, arc fault,
getting rid of K&T to obtain insurance, replacing fuse boxes, etc etc.

wonder why the dryer exception has survived?

Posted by on May 11, 2008, 5:48 pm
On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:38:50 -0700 (PDT), "hallerb@aol.com"

>wonder why the dryer exception has survived?

Not much of a body count to justify changing it.

Posted by KLS on May 11, 2008, 6:03 pm
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:48:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:38:50 -0700 (PDT), "hallerb@aol.com"
>
>>wonder why the dryer exception has survived?
>
>Not much of a body count to justify changing it.

Beautifully put. :D

Posted by Ralph Mowery on May 11, 2008, 6:50 pm

>for safety its likely worth the effort.

>just look at all the other updates required today, GFCI, >arc fault,
>getting rid of K&T to obtain insurance, replacing fuse >boxes, etc etc.

>wonder why the dryer exception has survived?

While it is a good idea, houses and people survived for many years without
all the safety equipment.



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