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5w-20 motor oil Vic Dura 06-19-2005
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Posted by Vic Dura on June 19, 2005, 7:13 am
I just bought a new car last month. My previous car was a 1997 model
and it specified 10w-40 motor oil, as had every car I have owned for
the past 30 years. This new car (a 2005 Ford Focus) specifies 5w-20
oil. I've since found out that 5w-20 has been pretty much standard for
the past couple of years.

Question: Why the apparent reduction in lubricating requirements? I
can understand that theoretically the 5w requires less power to pump
and therefor *might* result in some mileage improvement; but the high
temp reduction from 40 equivalent to 20 equivalent doesn't make sense
to me.

What am I missing?

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 19, 2005, 7:35 am

>I just bought a new car last month. My previous car was a 1997 model
> and it specified 10w-40 motor oil, as had every car I have owned for
> the past 30 years. This new car (a 2005 Ford Focus) specifies 5w-20
> oil. I've since found out that 5w-20 has been pretty much standard for
> the past couple of years.
> Question: Why the apparent reduction in lubricating requirements? I
> can understand that theoretically the 5w requires less power to pump
> and therefor *might* result in some mileage improvement; but the high
> temp reduction from 40 equivalent to 20 equivalent doesn't make sense
> to me.
> What am I missing?

Viscosity and lubricating quality are not necessarily related. I can't
recall having a car since the 70's that called for 10w-40. That was a big
V-8 that did not have the tolerances in the newest engines. All others were
10w-30




Posted by Mikepier on June 19, 2005, 9:05 am
A lot of the engines made today have tight tolerances, therefore
needing the lighter weight 30. My 2003 Odyssey uses 5W-20 as well.



Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 19, 2005, 9:08 am
Vic Dura wrote:
>I just bought a new car last month. My previous car was a 1997 model
> and it specified 10w-40 motor oil, as had every car I have owned for
> the past 30 years. This new car (a 2005 Ford Focus) specifies 5w-20
> oil. I've since found out that 5w-20 has been pretty much standard for
> the past couple of years.
> Question: Why the apparent reduction in lubricating requirements?

That is not a reduction in the lubricating requirements. It is an
indication of a less thick oil. Less thick does not convert to less
lubrication.

> I
> can understand that theoretically the 5w requires less power to pump
> and therefor *might* result in some mileage improvement; but the high
> temp reduction from 40 equivalent to 20 equivalent doesn't make sense
> to me.
> What am I missing?

You are right about the reduced pumping force, but that applies to the
hot measure (large number) as well. It also means the engine has to use
less energy to move pistons and other engine parts all of which mean a
little higher mileage.

It does not stop there. Today's engines are not designed like older
engines. The parts are made with closer tolerances so the heavier oil would
not lube or cool (cooling is a function of oil as well) them as well.

Stick with what the manufacturer recommends. If you want better oil,
try synthetic. Of course be sure to use nothing by synthetic if the
manufacturer calls for it.

The lubrication and other specifications are part of that letter after
the "S" You can use any oil rated equal to the "S" number specified or
higher. ("C" number for diesel engines).

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit




Posted by Duane Bozarth on June 19, 2005, 9:43 am
Vic Dura wrote:
>
> I just bought a new car last month. My previous car was a 1997 model
> and it specified 10w-40 motor oil, as had every car I have owned for
> the past 30 years. This new car (a 2005 Ford Focus) specifies 5w-20
> oil. I've since found out that 5w-20 has been pretty much standard for
> the past couple of years.
>
> Question: Why the apparent reduction in lubricating requirements? I
> can understand that theoretically the 5w requires less power to pump
> and therefor *might* result in some mileage improvement; but the high
> temp reduction from 40 equivalent to 20 equivalent doesn't make sense
> to me.
>
> What am I missing?

Others answered the basic questions, I'll just note that for years long
ago, Chevy specified 20-20W in all their truck engines--I've still got
one '58 which has been through every harvest since it was new and has
yet to have any work whatsoever other than normal maintenance. <Still>
using 20-20W in it... :)


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