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A couple more electrical questions... Toller 12-12-2006
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Posted by Toller on December 12, 2006, 6:13 pm


and then I will be done for a while, really!

I have a Sylvania breaker box, and need to put a common trip quad breaker in
for a new circuit because I am out of room. Two years ago I put in a
Siemens quad, so I know they fit and work; but now can't find one. I need a
C23030CT2. Lowes carries Murray, and while they don't have the one I need,
they have a quad that looks to be identical to the Siemens. Are they the
same? The Murray I need is a MP230230CT2, and seem to be readily available.

(I am tempted to pull out three circuits going to my workshop and put a
subpanel in, rather than putting in the fourth circuit. I sure wish I had
done it that way originally.)

I intend on running 10/2AC or 10/2MC. The AC is $0.60/ft, and the MC is
$1.10/ft. What about the MC is worth nearly twice the price? I don't want
to waste $50, but I "save" $50 by buying a product that will be much
inferior.
That's all, thanks.



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Posted by Charles Schuler on December 12, 2006, 6:20 pm



> and then I will be done for a while, really!
>
> I have a Sylvania breaker box, and need to put a common trip quad breaker
> in for a new circuit because I am out of room. Two years ago I put in a
> Siemens quad, so I know they fit and work; but now can't find one. I need
> a C23030CT2. Lowes carries Murray, and while they don't have the one I
> need, they have a quad that looks to be identical to the Siemens. Are
> they the same? The Murray I need is a MP230230CT2, and seem to be readily
> available.

If it mounts OK, then it is OK.

> (I am tempted to pull out three circuits going to my workshop and put a
> subpanel in, rather than putting in the fourth circuit. I sure wish I had
> done it that way originally.)

Yes and yes ... a sub-panel is good.

> I intend on running 10/2AC or 10/2MC. The AC is $0.60/ft, and the MC is
> $1.10/ft. What about the MC is worth nearly twice the price? I don't
> want to waste $50, but I "save" $50 by buying a product that will be much
> inferior.

Check your local code requirements.



Posted by Toller on December 12, 2006, 6:27 pm



>
>> and then I will be done for a while, really!
>>
>> I have a Sylvania breaker box, and need to put a common trip quad breaker
>> in for a new circuit because I am out of room. Two years ago I put in a
>> Siemens quad, so I know they fit and work; but now can't find one. I
>> need a C23030CT2. Lowes carries Murray, and while they don't have the
>> one I need, they have a quad that looks to be identical to the Siemens.
>> Are they the same? The Murray I need is a MP230230CT2, and seem to be
>> readily available.
>
> If it mounts OK, then it is OK.
>
>> (I am tempted to pull out three circuits going to my workshop and put a
>> subpanel in, rather than putting in the fourth circuit. I sure wish I
>> had done it that way originally.)
>
> Yes and yes ... a sub-panel is good.
>
>> I intend on running 10/2AC or 10/2MC. The AC is $0.60/ft, and the MC is
>> $1.10/ft. What about the MC is worth nearly twice the price? I don't
>> want to waste $50, but I "save" $50 by buying a product that will be much
>> inferior.
>
> Check your local code requirements.
I presume either is allowed; it that not always true?



Posted by RBM on December 12, 2006, 6:38 pm


Toller, if you're keeping notes, you gotta know more than the rest of us.
I'm pretty sure Murray will fit. The problem is over the years, these
competing manufacturers keep making small changes to try to prevent other
manufacturer's stuff from fitting, to the point that they're own stuff won't
fit in all of their panels. The Murray would be your best bet if you can't
find Siemens


> and then I will be done for a while, really!
>
> I have a Sylvania breaker box, and need to put a common trip quad breaker
> in for a new circuit because I am out of room. Two years ago I put in a
> Siemens quad, so I know they fit and work; but now can't find one. I need
> a C23030CT2. Lowes carries Murray, and while they don't have the one I
> need, they have a quad that looks to be identical to the Siemens. Are
> they the same? The Murray I need is a MP230230CT2, and seem to be readily
> available.
>
> (I am tempted to pull out three circuits going to my workshop and put a
> subpanel in, rather than putting in the fourth circuit. I sure wish I had
> done it that way originally.)
>
> I intend on running 10/2AC or 10/2MC. The AC is $0.60/ft, and the MC is
> $1.10/ft. What about the MC is worth nearly twice the price? I don't
> want to waste $50, but I "save" $50 by buying a product that will be much
> inferior.
> That's all, thanks.
>



Posted by RBM on December 12, 2006, 6:45 pm


Sorry, I meant Sylvania. I believe it's considered a code violation in that
the NEC states that you have to follow manufacturers instructions and no
manufacturer is going to say to use another's products

> Toller, if you're keeping notes, you gotta know more than the rest of us.
> I'm pretty sure Murray will fit. The problem is over the years, these
> competing manufacturers keep making small changes to try to prevent other
> manufacturer's stuff from fitting, to the point that they're own stuff
> won't fit in all of their panels. The Murray would be your best bet if you
> can't find Siemens
>
>
>> and then I will be done for a while, really!
>>
>> I have a Sylvania breaker box, and need to put a common trip quad breaker
>> in for a new circuit because I am out of room. Two years ago I put in a
>> Siemens quad, so I know they fit and work; but now can't find one. I
>> need a C23030CT2. Lowes carries Murray, and while they don't have the
>> one I need, they have a quad that looks to be identical to the Siemens.
>> Are they the same? The Murray I need is a MP230230CT2, and seem to be
>> readily available.
>>
>> (I am tempted to pull out three circuits going to my workshop and put a
>> subpanel in, rather than putting in the fourth circuit. I sure wish I
>> had done it that way originally.)
>>
>> I intend on running 10/2AC or 10/2MC. The AC is $0.60/ft, and the MC is
>> $1.10/ft. What about the MC is worth nearly twice the price? I don't
>> want to waste $50, but I "save" $50 by buying a product that will be much
>> inferior.
>> That's all, thanks.
>>
>
>



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