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AC question Dave Solly 08-21-2005
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 22, 2005, 1:42 pm


Carolina Breeze HVAC wrote:


> Dave...first of all....ignore the comment about the stat being too
> low...turning the stat too low on a properly charged system does
NADA...the
> system knows only on, or off, and going too low will NOT cause freezing on
a
> properly charged and operational unit in summer temps...PERIOD.
CY: Ignore, NADA, NOT..... three negatives.

>
> Now, you probably answered your own question, but its impossible to see it
> from here, however, your lack of normal service is screaming clogged
> coil....
CY: Impossbile, lack. two more negatives.

DO NOT LET YOUR AC GUY PUT ANY REFRIGERANT IN THE UNIT TILL HE
> INSPECTS THE COIL!!!!
CY: More negative energy.

> Most guys will come out, with only a manifold and a nice green tank and
> start juicing the unit..
CY: Mind reading. And critizing the other workers. More negative energy.

they never go inside, never take a lineset temp,
> never take a RH% reading indoors, never get a dew point...never do any of
> that and start to overcharge the unit, and then, WITHOUT a scale, they
start
> to dump refrigerant into the unit and then,
CY: I read six negatives, here.

with NO WAY to know what they
> put in the unit, they proudly proclaim its working, and charge you for
3lbs
> of refrigerant that they got for next to nothing and charge you $45 a lb
for
> it.
CY: More mind reading. More criticizing the other guy.

> Low airflow across the coil, due to dirt, mold, etc, will cause the
pressure
> readings at the manifold to be, or appear low. (BTW, those
pressures...mean
> NOTHING to a trained tech...hes looking for temps anyway) A dirty blower
> wheel will cause the same thing due to lack of airflow..lack of airflow,
> means lack of heat being transfered to the coil, and thus, lower
pressures.
> IF the units not been serviced, its worth your while to get the evap
> properly cleaned, the condensor properly cleaned, and THEN have the tech
> look for the issue..chances are, if it is low, and the ONLY way hes gonna
> know is to check the coils, clean the coils, and go inside and take temp
> readings for starters...then its got a slow leak. Any legitimate company
> will check the coils while they are servicing the unit for leaks..and use
a
> detector thats of decent quality...not soap unless its a question of
> moisture setting the detector off..and if hes got a decent one, like CPS,
or
> LeBold, that wont happen anyway.
> 9 out of 10 leaks are at the service ports and can be repaired in seconds,
> not hours normally.
CY: Ah, now some information. Shame the reader had to wade through so much
negative energy to get here. If anyone got this far. It's clear that your
main game is critizing others.

>
> Now...things you want to see..
>
> 1-Checking the evap coil, and cleaning if needed.
> 2-Taking temp readings of the suction line and return air temp indoors
> BEFORE adding a damn drop of refrigerant.
> 3-a SCALE under that green refrigerant jug, so he knows EXACTLY how much
he
> put in....
> 4-a leak check if he adds any refrigerant.
>
> You will want to ask him how hes gonna check the charge, and if he says,
by
> pressure, you can tell him to get on down the road..superheat, or subcool,
> and HE wont know till he checks your metering device in the evap.
>
> Now...if you want a gas-n-go.....then let him do whatever he wants, and
dont
> do anything but pay him whatever he asks...LOL
CY: More instruction. Shame you had to dump so much negative energy on
everyone to get here.

You should save this one as a template. Will save retyping it over and
over. Very thorough.
CY: Highly negative, and very insulting of every other tech. Why would
anyone want to repeat a bunch of insults and putdowns?

hvacrmedic




Posted by Carolina Breeze HVAC on August 22, 2005, 11:41 am



> Carolina Breeze HVAC wrote:
>
>
>> Dave...first of all....ignore the comment about the stat being too
>> low...turning the stat too low on a properly charged system does
> NADA...the
>> system knows only on, or off, and going too low will NOT cause freezing
>> on
> a
>> properly charged and operational unit in summer temps...PERIOD.
> CY: Ignore, NADA, NOT..... three negatives.

Here is a fourth in a hurry for ya Chris...what fucking brand of megger do
you own?
How do you check compressor windings?
Your own words were....you know nothing about those....and you claim to be a
tech....lol...

>
>>
>> Now, you probably answered your own question, but its impossible to see
>> it
>> from here, however, your lack of normal service is screaming clogged
>> coil....
> CY: Impossbile, lack. two more negatives.

You stupid incompetent moron....suggest you learn how to read....that wasnt
negative..this is....you are impossible to train...

>
> DO NOT LET YOUR AC GUY PUT ANY REFRIGERANT IN THE UNIT TILL HE
>> INSPECTS THE COIL!!!!
> CY: More negative energy.

Ummm...no.
Its negative to your type..the untrained, unwilling to learn kind that isnt
licenced....and has admitted to putting used parts on your so called
customers units.

>
>> Most guys will come out, with only a manifold and a nice green tank and
>> start juicing the unit..
> CY: Mind reading. And critizing the other workers. More negative energy.

No...thats a fact, and I bet I nailed you on the head.
What brand and model scale do you use Chris?

>
> they never go inside, never take a lineset temp,
>> never take a RH% reading indoors, never get a dew point...never do any of
>> that and start to overcharge the unit, and then, WITHOUT a scale, they
> start
>> to dump refrigerant into the unit and then,
> CY: I read six negatives, here.
>

I read that I just nailed how you charge a unit.

> with NO WAY to know what they
>> put in the unit, they proudly proclaim its working, and charge you for
> 3lbs
>> of refrigerant that they got for next to nothing and charge you $45 a lb
> for
>> it.
> CY: More mind reading. More criticizing the other guy.

Whassa matter Chris? Really pisses you off that you have been called out
time and time again, and now, your charging techiques have been uncovered?

>
>> Low airflow across the coil, due to dirt, mold, etc, will cause the
> pressure
>> readings at the manifold to be, or appear low. (BTW, those
> pressures...mean
>> NOTHING to a trained tech...hes looking for temps anyway) A dirty blower
>> wheel will cause the same thing due to lack of airflow..lack of airflow,
>> means lack of heat being transfered to the coil, and thus, lower
> pressures.
>> IF the units not been serviced, its worth your while to get the evap
>> properly cleaned, the condensor properly cleaned, and THEN have the tech
>> look for the issue..chances are, if it is low, and the ONLY way hes gonna
>> know is to check the coils, clean the coils, and go inside and take temp
>> readings for starters...then its got a slow leak. Any legitimate company
>> will check the coils while they are servicing the unit for leaks..and use
> a
>> detector thats of decent quality...not soap unless its a question of
>> moisture setting the detector off..and if hes got a decent one, like CPS,
> or
>> LeBold, that wont happen anyway.
>> 9 out of 10 leaks are at the service ports and can be repaired in
>> seconds,
>> not hours normally.
> CY: Ah, now some information. Shame the reader had to wade through so much
> negative energy to get here. If anyone got this far. It's clear that your
> main game is critizing others.

No...just putting the hacks out....get used to it bubba...
See Chris, the bad thing is that there are people out there like you....the
average homeowner has no clue the things that need to be done, so when
someone like you comes out, they think, wow, hes got it running...and all
you did was keep them stupid to what you did...need I remind you about your
capacitor story????
Educate the homeowner, the hacks will find other avenues.

>
>>
>> Now...things you want to see..
>>
>> 1-Checking the evap coil, and cleaning if needed.
>> 2-Taking temp readings of the suction line and return air temp indoors
>> BEFORE adding a damn drop of refrigerant.
>> 3-a SCALE under that green refrigerant jug, so he knows EXACTLY how much
> he
>> put in....
>> 4-a leak check if he adds any refrigerant.
>>
>> You will want to ask him how hes gonna check the charge, and if he says,
> by
>> pressure, you can tell him to get on down the road..superheat, or
>> subcool,
>> and HE wont know till he checks your metering device in the evap.
>>
>> Now...if you want a gas-n-go.....then let him do whatever he wants, and
> dont
>> do anything but pay him whatever he asks...LOL
> CY: More instruction. Shame you had to dump so much negative energy on
> everyone to get here.

You learned something? Amazing.
Shame you continue to lie to everyone....more negative energy that I am
positive about.

>
> You should save this one as a template. Will save retyping it over and
> over. Very thorough.
> CY: Highly negative, and very insulting of every other tech. Why would
> anyone want to repeat a bunch of insults and putdowns?

Another pro, (something you are not even close to) thinks its ok...deal with
it Chris.
Wait till the vid comes out that we are gonna offer...its got guys like you
that we taped working on units, and then it shows the RIGHT way to do what
they lied to the customer about.

BTW Chris..for someone that claims to be a Mormon..that sure was a very
un-moron..err..mormom post you made there..
Dont mind if I send it to the local Mormons in your area do you? Ill also
include your most recent post about how you cheated and admitted to us all
how you cheated a customer by installing used parts on his unit in the hopes
it would run, and how you KNEW you had a GUARANTEED return visit you could
charge for.

BTW..glad you cross posted this to alt.hvac....the guys there will have a
field day with you...
>
> hvacrmedic
>
>




Posted by Tekkie® on August 22, 2005, 8:18 pm


Carolina Breeze HVAC posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

> What brand and model scale do you use Chris?
>
He's got the Health O Meter 300. The one like in doctors offices with bar
balance. It's in the back of the Pinto somewhere bent like a pretzel and due
to be recalibrated 75 years ago...
--

Tekkie


Posted by Oscar_Lives on August 23, 2005, 2:01 am



> Carolina Breeze HVAC posted for all of us...
> I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
>
>> What brand and model scale do you use Chris?
>>
> He's got the Health O Meter 300. The one like in doctors offices with bar
> balance. It's in the back of the Pinto somewhere bent like a pretzel and
> due
> to be recalibrated 75 years ago...
> --
>
> Tekkie

That's better than the one I have in my bathroom. Mine just says "one at a
time, please" when I get on it.




Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 22, 2005, 10:42 pm


Generally, people with jobs don't spend this much time on the computer. I
don't have the time to rebutt each and every accusation. Why don't you make
some more vicious accusations? You sure are revealing your true personality.

--

Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
..



> Carolina Breeze HVAC wrote:
>
>
>> Dave...first of all....ignore the comment about the stat being too
>> low...turning the stat too low on a properly charged system does
> NADA...the
>> system knows only on, or off, and going too low will NOT cause freezing
>> on
> a
>> properly charged and operational unit in summer temps...PERIOD.
> CY: Ignore, NADA, NOT..... three negatives.

Here is a fourth in a hurry for ya Chris...what fucking brand of megger do
you own?
How do you check compressor windings?
Your own words were....you know nothing about those....and you claim to be a
tech....lol...

>
>>
>> Now, you probably answered your own question, but its impossible to see
>> it
>> from here, however, your lack of normal service is screaming clogged
>> coil....
> CY: Impossbile, lack. two more negatives.

You stupid incompetent moron....suggest you learn how to read....that wasnt
negative..this is....you are impossible to train...

>
> DO NOT LET YOUR AC GUY PUT ANY REFRIGERANT IN THE UNIT TILL HE
>> INSPECTS THE COIL!!!!
> CY: More negative energy.

Ummm...no.
Its negative to your type..the untrained, unwilling to learn kind that isnt
licenced....and has admitted to putting used parts on your so called
customers units.

>
>> Most guys will come out, with only a manifold and a nice green tank and
>> start juicing the unit..
> CY: Mind reading. And critizing the other workers. More negative energy.

No...thats a fact, and I bet I nailed you on the head.
What brand and model scale do you use Chris?

>
> they never go inside, never take a lineset temp,
>> never take a RH% reading indoors, never get a dew point...never do any of
>> that and start to overcharge the unit, and then, WITHOUT a scale, they
> start
>> to dump refrigerant into the unit and then,
> CY: I read six negatives, here.
>

I read that I just nailed how you charge a unit.

> with NO WAY to know what they
>> put in the unit, they proudly proclaim its working, and charge you for
> 3lbs
>> of refrigerant that they got for next to nothing and charge you $45 a lb
> for
>> it.
> CY: More mind reading. More criticizing the other guy.

Whassa matter Chris? Really pisses you off that you have been called out
time and time again, and now, your charging techiques have been uncovered?

>
>> Low airflow across the coil, due to dirt, mold, etc, will cause the
> pressure
>> readings at the manifold to be, or appear low. (BTW, those
> pressures...mean
>> NOTHING to a trained tech...hes looking for temps anyway) A dirty blower
>> wheel will cause the same thing due to lack of airflow..lack of airflow,
>> means lack of heat being transfered to the coil, and thus, lower
> pressures.
>> IF the units not been serviced, its worth your while to get the evap
>> properly cleaned, the condensor properly cleaned, and THEN have the tech
>> look for the issue..chances are, if it is low, and the ONLY way hes gonna
>> know is to check the coils, clean the coils, and go inside and take temp
>> readings for starters...then its got a slow leak. Any legitimate company
>> will check the coils while they are servicing the unit for leaks..and use
> a
>> detector thats of decent quality...not soap unless its a question of
>> moisture setting the detector off..and if hes got a decent one, like CPS,
> or
>> LeBold, that wont happen anyway.
>> 9 out of 10 leaks are at the service ports and can be repaired in
>> seconds,
>> not hours normally.
> CY: Ah, now some information. Shame the reader had to wade through so much
> negative energy to get here. If anyone got this far. It's clear that your
> main game is critizing others.

No...just putting the hacks out....get used to it bubba...
See Chris, the bad thing is that there are people out there like you....the
average homeowner has no clue the things that need to be done, so when
someone like you comes out, they think, wow, hes got it running...and all
you did was keep them stupid to what you did...need I remind you about your
capacitor story????
Educate the homeowner, the hacks will find other avenues.

>
>>
>> Now...things you want to see..
>>
>> 1-Checking the evap coil, and cleaning if needed.
>> 2-Taking temp readings of the suction line and return air temp indoors
>> BEFORE adding a damn drop of refrigerant.
>> 3-a SCALE under that green refrigerant jug, so he knows EXACTLY how much
> he
>> put in....
>> 4-a leak check if he adds any refrigerant.
>>
>> You will want to ask him how hes gonna check the charge, and if he says,
> by
>> pressure, you can tell him to get on down the road..superheat, or
>> subcool,
>> and HE wont know till he checks your metering device in the evap.
>>
>> Now...if you want a gas-n-go.....then let him do whatever he wants, and
> dont
>> do anything but pay him whatever he asks...LOL
> CY: More instruction. Shame you had to dump so much negative energy on
> everyone to get here.

You learned something? Amazing.
Shame you continue to lie to everyone....more negative energy that I am
positive about.

>
> You should save this one as a template. Will save retyping it over and
> over. Very thorough.
> CY: Highly negative, and very insulting of every other tech. Why would
> anyone want to repeat a bunch of insults and putdowns?

Another pro, (something you are not even close to) thinks its ok...deal with
it Chris.
Wait till the vid comes out that we are gonna offer...its got guys like you
that we taped working on units, and then it shows the RIGHT way to do what
they lied to the customer about.

BTW Chris..for someone that claims to be a Mormon..that sure was a very
un-moron..err..mormom post you made there..
Dont mind if I send it to the local Mormons in your area do you? Ill also
include your most recent post about how you cheated and admitted to us all
how you cheated a customer by installing used parts on his unit in the hopes
it would run, and how you KNEW you had a GUARANTEED return visit you could
charge for.

BTW..glad you cross posted this to alt.hvac....the guys there will have a
field day with you...
>
> hvacrmedic
>
>





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