If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
|
Posted by ~^Johnny^~ on August 23, 2005, 5:14 am
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:49:51 GMT, "Stormin Mormon"
show/hide quoted text
>Nah..I just sent them via FAX, to the locals there in NY, where you
>e-mailed me and asked if I liked to play with men, and that nude
>shot you
>sent....man..that was all fucked up.
>CAnt hide that header Chris...
I hope you're kidding; or, perhaps mistaken about the sender.
Articles are too easily spoofed, forged, and/or remailed.
If you're not...
There was a problem with a troll in another NG a few years back,
pulled my chain pretty bad, everybody in teh group lost their cool -
this troll started sending lewd emails with large attachments to
people that had filtered his posts, and then he proceeded to stalk
and harass others to the point of issuing bogus complaints to
webmasters and ISP's, trying to get them all booted.
Long story short: He's gone now... apparently, he finally ran out
of ISP's. It can happen!
The point is this: It is very likely someone with a personal
vendetta, doing a "Joe Job" on Chris, et al.
Why do you think I recently started digi-signing my messages again?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP 7.1
iQA/AwUBQwsTKwIk7T39FC4ZEQIoCgCfS4x1Uulx7R+Dmq4/DxWZ9Fh2pfQAoKev
oLuJlRqX+vbQQavl6g1uyBk8
=XCjb
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info
|
|
Posted by geoman*^ on August 22, 2005, 11:53 pm
show/hide quoted text
> You have been consistently inaccurate. If memory serves, I wrote that I
> didn't know what level of megohms indicates a bad compresor.
> If you are this inaccurate when the information is on your screen, I
> question if you can do anything else. Can you drive? Handle money? I sure
> hope you don't go out in the field and fix peoples heating or AC.
> You are completely invited to forward anything I write on the news groups
> to
> the local or global leaders. Just print it out and send to
> The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
> 50 East North Temple
> Salt Lake City, UT, 84510
THATS A JOKE in itself. The Church of JESUS CHRIST? You mean the one who
said not to commit adultery? The one who, through Paul, stated that those
Christians who seek to do his work would be the husband of ONE WIFE? That
Church? Then drop the Later Day Saints because their ain't nothing 'SAINT
about the mormons.
You are NOT followers of Jesus Christ. He wore a robe NOT LONG UNDERWEAR!
show/hide quoted text
> I'm typing from memory, so you'll have to double check the adress for me.
> If
> they have a hard time trying to find me, get the name and phone and
> extension of the person you contact, and I'll call him or her.
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Do good work.
> It's longer in the short run
> but shorter in the long run.
> .
> .
>> Carolina Breeze HVAC wrote:
> Here is a fourth in a hurry for ya Chris...what fucking brand of megger do
> you own?
> How do you check compressor windings?
> Your own words were....you know nothing about those....and you claim to be
> a
> tech....lol...
>> CY: Highly negative, and very insulting of every other tech. Why would
>> anyone want to repeat a bunch of insults and putdowns?
> Another pro, (something you are not even close to) thinks its ok...deal
> with
> it Chris.
> Wait till the vid comes out that we are gonna offer...its got guys like
> you
> that we taped working on units, and then it shows the RIGHT way to do what
> they lied to the customer about.
> BTW Chris..for someone that claims to be a Mormon..that sure was a very
> un-moron..err..mormom post you made there..
> Dont mind if I send it to the local Mormons in your area do you? Ill also
> include your most recent post about how you cheated and admitted to us all
> how you cheated a customer by installing used parts on his unit in the
> hopes
> it would run, and how you KNEW you had a GUARANTEED return visit you could
> charge for.
> BTW..glad you cross posted this to alt.hvac....the guys there will have a
> field day with you...
>
|
|
Posted by Dave Solly on August 22, 2005, 1:31 am
>
>>I have lived in this house since it was new, 20 years ago. This past
>> week, during the late afternoon, I would get condensation coming from
>> the air outlet closest to the air handler and right after the coil. I
>> remember reading on this group that this is probably caused by icing
>> of the coil. remembering that low air movement across the coil could
>> cause this, I changed the filter and this time used a filter that
>> would allow more flow ( I had one of those super duper ones that
>> wouldn't let any pollen through). For the next day or so, that seemed
>> to fix the problem. Now today, It has started again. I turned the AC
>> off for about an hour, then turned it back on and no more
>> condensation dripping from the outlet. I know, however, that it will
>> probably return in another couple of hours. It is presently 100
>> degrees outside. The humidity is about 40%. Inside the temp is 77
>> degrees with a humidity of about 33%.
>> This is the situation. The compressor is out side. Everything else is
>> inside in the attic. Over the life of the AC, the filters have NOT be
>> changed out on a regular basis. For the first 15 years or so, I used
>> the el-chepo filters. Usually, when I did remember to change them,
>> they were clogged up with dust. Last year I had someone come out to
>> do a checkup. This was the first time in about 10 years. He measured
>> the flow from the vents and used the gauges (I have no idea what the
>> measurements were but he said the readings all looked good). He also
>> checked the temp of the air coming out of the vents. All was good for
>> the unit I had. He of course tried to sell me a new high effency
>> unit, but when we finished talking, the payback would be after I was
>> dead.
>> So now I'm thinking that one of two things is wrong. Either the coil
>> is clogged up and won't allow enough air to flow through the coil and
>> it therefore freezes up, or the freon level is low(?). There seems to
>> be good air flow coming from the vents and the air is cool, but can
>> the air get around the coil? Or is it possible that some of the coil
>> is clogged and that's where the ice starts to form, and then it just
>> gets worse from there?
>> I know I'm going to have to call an AC guy out, but I'd like to have
>> an idea of what else the problem could be.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave
>
> Dave...first of all....ignore the comment about the stat being too
> low...turning the stat too low on a properly charged system does
> NADA...the system knows only on, or off, and going too low will NOT
> cause freezing on a properly charged and operational unit in summer
> temps...PERIOD.
>
> Now, you probably answered your own question, but its impossible to
> see it from here, however, your lack of normal service is screaming
> clogged coil....DO NOT LET YOUR AC GUY PUT ANY REFRIGERANT IN THE
> UNIT TILL HE INSPECTS THE COIL!!!!
> Most guys will come out, with only a manifold and a nice green tank
> and start juicing the unit..they never go inside, never take a lineset
> temp, never take a RH% reading indoors, never get a dew point...never
> do any of that and start to overcharge the unit, and then, WITHOUT a
> scale, they start to dump refrigerant into the unit and then, with NO
> WAY to know what they put in the unit, they proudly proclaim its
> working, and charge you for 3lbs of refrigerant that they got for next
> to nothing and charge you $45 a lb for it.
> Low airflow across the coil, due to dirt, mold, etc, will cause the
> pressure readings at the manifold to be, or appear low. (BTW, those
> pressures...mean NOTHING to a trained tech...hes looking for temps
> anyway) A dirty blower wheel will cause the same thing due to lack of
> airflow..lack of airflow, means lack of heat being transfered to the
> coil, and thus, lower pressures. IF the units not been serviced, its
> worth your while to get the evap properly cleaned, the condensor
> properly cleaned, and THEN have the tech look for the issue..chances
> are, if it is low, and the ONLY way hes gonna know is to check the
> coils, clean the coils, and go inside and take temp readings for
> starters...then its got a slow leak. Any legitimate company will check
> the coils while they are servicing the unit for leaks..and use a
> detector thats of decent quality...not soap unless its a question of
> moisture setting the detector off..and if hes got a decent one, like
> CPS, or LeBold, that wont happen anyway.
> 9 out of 10 leaks are at the service ports and can be repaired in
> seconds, not hours normally.
>
> Now...things you want to see..
>
> 1-Checking the evap coil, and cleaning if needed.
> 2-Taking temp readings of the suction line and return air temp indoors
> BEFORE adding a damn drop of refrigerant.
> 3-a SCALE under that green refrigerant jug, so he knows EXACTLY how
> much he put in....
> 4-a leak check if he adds any refrigerant.
>
> You will want to ask him how hes gonna check the charge, and if he
> says, by pressure, you can tell him to get on down the
> road..superheat, or subcool, and HE wont know till he checks your
> metering device in the evap.
>
> Now...if you want a gas-n-go.....then let him do whatever he wants,
> and dont do anything but pay him whatever he asks...LOL
>
>
>
Thanks for the info Steve. I'm printing it out.
|
|
Posted by User Example on August 21, 2005, 10:35 pm
Low freon will cause it to ice up and that will cause a reduction in
flow. To test, let the A/C sit turned off for a while until it has
thawed. You can run the fan without the A/C on to help it thaw out
faster. If the air flow returns eventually then you can rule out low flow.
Dave Solly wrote:
show/hide quoted text
> I have lived in this house since it was new, 20 years ago. This past
> week, during the late afternoon, I would get condensation coming from the
> air outlet closest to the air handler and right after the coil. I
> remember reading on this group that this is probably caused by icing of
> the coil. remembering that low air movement across the coil could cause
> this, I changed the filter and this time used a filter that would allow
> more flow ( I had one of those super duper ones that wouldn't let any
> pollen through). For the next day or so, that seemed to fix the problem.
> Now today, It has started again. I turned the AC off for about an hour,
> then turned it back on and no more condensation dripping from the outlet.
> I know, however, that it will probably return in another couple of hours.
> It is presently 100 degrees outside. The humidity is about 40%. Inside
> the temp is 77 degrees with a humidity of about 33%.
>
> This is the situation. The compressor is out side. Everything else is
> inside in the attic. Over the life of the AC, the filters have NOT be
> changed out on a regular basis. For the first 15 years or so, I used the
> el-chepo filters. Usually, when I did remember to change them, they were
> clogged up with dust. Last year I had someone come out to do a checkup.
> This was the first time in about 10 years. He measured the flow from the
> vents and used the gauges (I have no idea what the measurements were but
> he said the readings all looked good). He also checked the temp of the
> air coming out of the vents. All was good for the unit I had. He of
> course tried to sell me a new high effency unit, but when we finished
> talking, the payback would be after I was dead.
>
> So now I'm thinking that one of two things is wrong. Either the coil is
> clogged up and won't allow enough air to flow through the coil and it
> therefore freezes up, or the freon level is low(?). There seems to be
> good air flow coming from the vents and the air is cool, but can the air
> get around the coil? Or is it possible that some of the coil is clogged
> and that's where the ice starts to form, and then it just gets worse from
> there?
>
> I know I'm going to have to call an AC guy out, but I'd like to have an
> idea of what else the problem could be.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
|
|
Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 22, 2005, 2:48 am
I would think that if the airflow returns after thaw, that low airflow
mighta been the problem in the first place. Hard to tell without gage and
temp readings.
--
Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
Low freon will cause it to ice up and that will cause a reduction in
flow. To test, let the A/C sit turned off for a while until it has
thawed. You can run the fan without the A/C on to help it thaw out
faster. If the air flow returns eventually then you can rule out low flow.
|
Page 5 of 5 << first < 1 2 3
| Similar Threads | Posted | | Concrete question (regarding previous plumbing question) | October 17, 2006, 2:29 pm |
| AC and fan question | July 17, 2005, 6:59 pm |
| Yet another A/C question............... | July 19, 2005, 11:33 pm |
| A/C Question | August 24, 2005, 10:21 pm |
| a/c question | September 13, 2005, 8:37 am |
| UBC Question | September 26, 2005, 6:02 pm |
| Gas Log Question | December 10, 2005, 3:45 pm |
| Another A/C question | June 15, 2005, 10:06 pm |
| Well Question | March 13, 2006, 11:50 am |
| AC question(s) | June 13, 2006, 10:03 am |
|
|
Yahoo! 
Google 
Windows Live 
del.icio.us 
digg 
Netscape 
XML Sitemap
>e-mailed me and asked if I liked to play with men, and that nude
>shot you
>sent....man..that was all fucked up.
>CAnt hide that header Chris...