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Affixing OSB to Ceiling Joists with (brad?) Nails deans@wdeans.com 10-16-2007
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Posted by deans@wdeans.com on October 16, 2007, 2:27 am
Greetings,

In rental properties I often have problems in which I need to pull
down the ceiling. Drywall ceilings are destroyed in this process and
drop-in-tile ceilings are considered "low class" by some tenants.
They also lower the ceiling height. I have torn down a drywall
ceiling which was water damaged... for the THIRD time in the same
property. I have the notion that I would like to replace it with a
1/2" OSB or Plywood ceiling held up by brad nails. After popcorn
texture is applied it would look no different from a regular drywall
ceiling but I could hire a $10/hr guy pull it down if need be and
reattach / paint it. OSB and Plywood are also much more water
resistant than drywall.
I believe that screws would make this process much harder if not
impossible. What is the minimum spacing of 2" 18 AWG brad nails (16
AWG?) that I would need to hold up this 1/2" board with 16" joist
spacing? (too many will make the boards harder to pull off). If for
some reason it is not possible with brad nails then what is the
minimum finish nail requirement or some other fastener which I can
pull out instead of having to unscrew after the heads are filled?

Thank you for your time,
William

PS: The last question I posted received some very helpful answers but
also a lot of off topic responses and responses which were not
addressing the question which I asked. No, you WILL NOT be able to
tell after I lightly texture coat with a single coat drywall mud mixed
with paint then popcorn. I'm not going to fix the water problem.
Period. If you want to talk about "source of water", "stopping
water", "addressing water" or how stupid I am you are welcome to among
yourselves, but I might not be able to find the time to respond to
you. This is a question about safely (if possible) affixing OSB to
the ceiling with (brad) nails.

Thanks!


Posted by Bob on October 16, 2007, 4:59 am

> Greetings,
>
> In rental properties I often have problems in which I need to pull
> down the ceiling. Drywall ceilings are destroyed in this process
> and
> drop-in-tile ceilings are considered "low class" by some tenants.
> They also lower the ceiling height. I have torn down a drywall
> ceiling which was water damaged... for the THIRD time in the same
> property. I have the notion that I would like to replace it with
> a
> 1/2" OSB or Plywood ceiling held up by brad nails. After popcorn
> texture is applied it would look no different from a regular
> drywall
> ceiling but I could hire a $10/hr guy pull it down if need be and
> reattach / paint it. OSB and Plywood are also much more water
> resistant than drywall.
> I believe that screws would make this process much harder if not
> impossible. What is the minimum spacing of 2" 18 AWG brad nails
> (16
> AWG?) that I would need to hold up this 1/2" board with 16" joist
> spacing? (too many will make the boards harder to pull off). If
> for
> some reason it is not possible with brad nails then what is the
> minimum finish nail requirement or some other fastener which I can
> pull out instead of having to unscrew after the heads are filled?
>
> Thank you for your time,
> William
>
> PS: The last question I posted received some very helpful answers
> but
> also a lot of off topic responses and responses which were not
> addressing the question which I asked. No, you WILL NOT be able
> to
> tell after I lightly texture coat with a single coat drywall mud
> mixed
> with paint then popcorn. I'm not going to fix the water problem.
> Period. If you want to talk about "source of water", "stopping
> water", "addressing water" or how stupid I am you are welcome to
> among
> yourselves, but I might not be able to find the time to respond to
> you. This is a question about safely (if possible) affixing OSB
> to
> the ceiling with (brad) nails.
>
> Thanks!
>
I can't answer your question, but I can make a suggestion ---
Using 1/4 inch wood instead of 1/2 inch will reduce the weight and
therefore
result in less concern about brads supporting it.

Bob-tx



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on October 16, 2007, 5:54 am

> I believe that screws would make this process much harder if not
> impossible. What is the minimum spacing of 2" 18 AWG brad nails (16
> AWG?) that I would need to hold up this 1/2" board with 16" joist
> spacing? (too many will make the boards harder to pull off). If for
> some reason it is not possible with brad nails then what is the
> minimum finish nail requirement or some other fastener which I can
> pull out instead of having to unscrew after the heads are filled?

Brads will work if you have enough, but four screws will be all the safety
you need I'd consider thinner board also.

I don't know if there are any code issues with OSB versus drywall.



Posted by marson on October 16, 2007, 6:32 am
> > I believe that screws would make this process much harder if not
> > impossible. What is the minimum spacing of 2" 18 AWG brad nails (16
> > AWG?) that I would need to hold up this 1/2" board with 16" joist
> > spacing? (too many will make the boards harder to pull off). If for
> > some reason it is not possible with brad nails then what is the
> > minimum finish nail requirement or some other fastener which I can
> > pull out instead of having to unscrew after the heads are filled?
>
> Brads will work if you have enough, but four screws will be all the safety
> you need I'd consider thinner board also.
>
> I don't know if there are any code issues with OSB versus drywall.

Are you using a nail gun? If so, then brad the bejeezus out of it---
every 6" or so? If you are hand nailing it, every foot or so should
be sufficient. Now I know you aren't looking for advice, but I have
to say that I don't see how OSB is going to hold up to water or
survive being pulled down and put back up, etc.


Posted by deans@wdeans.com on October 16, 2007, 11:44 am
> > I believe that screws would make this process much harder if not
> > impossible. What is the minimum spacing of 2" 18 AWG brad nails (16
> > AWG?) that I would need to hold up this 1/2" board with 16" joist
> > spacing? (too many will make the boards harder to pull off). If for
> > some reason it is not possible with brad nails then what is the
> > minimum finish nail requirement or some other fastener which I can
> > pull out instead of having to unscrew after the heads are filled?
>
> Brads will work if you have enough, but four screws will be all the safety
> you need I'd consider thinner board also.
>
> I don't know if there are any code issues with OSB versus drywall.

Greetings,

I know that you don't have to have boards of any sort over the ceiling
joists at all if you are not exposing any electrical. I have seen a
few with the ceilings down and the joists painted flat black (esp high
ceilings) but in my case there is normally Romex or other reasons why
it wouldn't work. If there is a code reason why nothing is OK but yet
OSB is not OK then please let me know.

I worry about thinner boards not being stiff enough to span the 16"
without eventually developing dips.

Thanks,
William


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