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Air conditioner poor performance? Doug Warner 05-21-2006
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Posted by Doug Warner on May 21, 2006, 8:39 pm

Starting to get warm in Atlanta, so I tested my 22-year-old Carrier SX
A/C system. Performance is low. At 80 degrees outside, it can't cool
the house lower than 74. =20

I checked the charge level:
(Condenser inlet air temp, across chart to suction pressure line, then
down to suction line temperature. ) It's within 2 degrees of target
using a Fluke dual thermocouple thermometer. =20
(Suction line temp measured just before it enters the
compressor/condenser unit)

Temperature drop across the evaporator (if it matters) is 67.0 inlet,
51.2 outlet,. with a 75 degree outdoor temp. =20

Temp difference across the condenser is about 17 deg.=20

Never had any issues with it in the past 22 years.. Any thoughts on
what else it might be?

(If call a servicer, they'll probably just try to sell me a whole new
system instead of fixing the old one..)

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Posted by CJT on May 21, 2006, 8:53 pm
Doug Warner wrote:

> Starting to get warm in Atlanta, so I tested my 22-year-old Carrier SX
> A/C system. Performance is low. At 80 degrees outside, it can't cool
> the house lower than 74.
>
> I checked the charge level:
> (Condenser inlet air temp, across chart to suction pressure line, then
> down to suction line temperature. ) It's within 2 degrees of target
> using a Fluke dual thermocouple thermometer.
> (Suction line temp measured just before it enters the
> compressor/condenser unit)
>
> Temperature drop across the evaporator (if it matters) is 67.0 inlet,
> 51.2 outlet,. with a 75 degree outdoor temp.
>
> Temp difference across the condenser is about 17 deg.
>
> Never had any issues with it in the past 22 years.. Any thoughts on
> what else it might be?
>
> (If call a servicer, they'll probably just try to sell me a whole new
> system instead of fixing the old one..)
>
> --
> Email reply: please remove one letter from each side of "@"
> Spammers are Scammers. Exterminate them.

Look for leaky ductwork.

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Posted by Art on May 21, 2006, 9:29 pm
It is 22 years old. A new one will probably pay for itself in 5 years.




Starting to get warm in Atlanta, so I tested my 22-year-old Carrier SX
A/C system. Performance is low. At 80 degrees outside, it can't cool
the house lower than 74.

I checked the charge level:
(Condenser inlet air temp, across chart to suction pressure line, then
down to suction line temperature. ) It's within 2 degrees of target
using a Fluke dual thermocouple thermometer.
(Suction line temp measured just before it enters the
compressor/condenser unit)

Temperature drop across the evaporator (if it matters) is 67.0 inlet,
51.2 outlet,. with a 75 degree outdoor temp.

Temp difference across the condenser is about 17 deg.

Never had any issues with it in the past 22 years.. Any thoughts on
what else it might be?

(If call a servicer, they'll probably just try to sell me a whole new
system instead of fixing the old one..)

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Posted by Gideon on May 23, 2006, 3:43 am

Art wrote in message ...
It is 22 years old. A new one will probably pay for itself in 5 years.

==============

Based upon what detailed evaluation of his specific home and his
particular AC usage? You're just pulling numbers our of your butt.

An 84 year-old neighbor lady recently got talked into replacing her
10 SEER unit, which was working quite well, with a 13 SEER unit.
The friendly HVAC tech "explained" to her that she couldn't afford
to not make the upgrade since the new unit would "pay for itself"
many times over in the lifetime of the unit.

This little old lady runs the unit very little in our northern climate and
when she does, she sets the thermostat to 78 since she chills so easily.

What is her payback point? What is her life expectancy. When
will she move out of the house and into a nursing home?





Posted by Art on May 25, 2006, 10:20 am
I guarantee you his 22 year old unit is no where near 10 SEER.


>
> Art wrote in message ...
> It is 22 years old. A new one will probably pay for itself in 5 years.
>
> ==============
>
> Based upon what detailed evaluation of his specific home and his
> particular AC usage? You're just pulling numbers our of your butt.
>
> An 84 year-old neighbor lady recently got talked into replacing her
> 10 SEER unit, which was working quite well, with a 13 SEER unit.
> The friendly HVAC tech "explained" to her that she couldn't afford
> to not make the upgrade since the new unit would "pay for itself"
> many times over in the lifetime of the unit.
>
> This little old lady runs the unit very little in our northern climate and
> when she does, she sets the thermostat to 78 since she chills so easily.
>
> What is her payback point? What is her life expectancy. When
> will she move out of the house and into a nursing home?
>
>
>
>



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