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An honest look at CFL's Bob 06-22-2008
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Posted by Bob on June 22, 2008, 7:14 am
This guy makes sense.

http://youtube.com:80/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg



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Posted by Frank on June 22, 2008, 8:19 am
Bob wrote:
> This guy makes sense.
>
> http://youtube.com:80/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
>
>
What bugs me, as a retired chemist, is that fluorescent bulbs have
always contained mercury:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamp

Mercury toxicity depends on the chemical state it is in. The EPA advice
cited is just plain nuts to me.

I use CFL's for energy savings but I'm damned if I want congress to tell
me what to do and if I ever break one or throw it away, what I do with
it is my business.


Posted by Chuck on June 22, 2008, 8:29 am
Frank wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>> This guy makes sense.
>>
>> http://youtube.com:80/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
>>
> What bugs me, as a retired chemist, is that fluorescent bulbs have
> always contained mercury:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamp
>
> Mercury toxicity depends on the chemical state it is in. The EPA advice
> cited is just plain nuts to me.
>
> I use CFL's for energy savings but I'm damned if I want congress to tell
> me what to do and if I ever break one or throw it away, what I do with
> it is my business.
>

CFL's also emit UV. People that have Lupus, fibromyalgia, or Sjogrens
syndrome (auto-immune diseases) become very ill. Going into any store
with fluorescent lighting causes them a lot of discomfort.

Posted by Paul M. Eldridge on June 22, 2008, 9:41 am

>CFL's also emit UV. People that have Lupus, fibromyalgia, or Sjogrens
>syndrome (auto-immune diseases) become very ill. Going into any store
>with fluorescent lighting causes them a lot of discomfort.

Hi Chuck,

Note that incandescent lamps also emit UV; where this may be a
concern, halogen lamps with their hard (UV absorbing) glass
construction are a better choice and, in particular, those with
special UV coatings.

With respect to fluorescents and UV, here's what GE has to say:

"The amount of UV produced by standard fluorescent lamps, such as
those in your office, home, or school, is not hazardous and does not
pose a major health concern. In fact, a paper by the National
Electrical Manufacturers Association (NEMA) explores this subject in
more detail. It cites a study in which it was determined that UV
exposure from sitting indoors under fluorescent lights at typical
office light levels for an eight hour workday is equivalent to just
over a minute of exposure to the sun in Washington, D.C. on a clear
day in July."

Source: http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/faqs/health.htm

Cheers,
Paul

Posted by Chuck on June 22, 2008, 4:06 pm
Paul M. Eldridge wrote:
>
>> CFL's also emit UV. People that have Lupus, fibromyalgia, or Sjogrens
>> syndrome (auto-immune diseases) become very ill. Going into any store
>> with fluorescent lighting causes them a lot of discomfort.
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> Note that incandescent lamps also emit UV; where this may be a
> concern, halogen lamps with their hard (UV absorbing) glass
> construction are a better choice and, in particular, those with
> special UV coatings.
>
> With respect to fluorescents and UV, here's what GE has to say:
>
> "The amount of UV produced by standard fluorescent lamps, such as
> those in your office, home, or school, is not hazardous and does not
> pose a major health concern. In fact, a paper by the National
> Electrical Manufacturers Association (NEMA) explores this subject in
> more detail. It cites a study in which it was determined that UV
> exposure from sitting indoors under fluorescent lights at typical
> office light levels for an eight hour workday is equivalent to just
> over a minute of exposure to the sun in Washington, D.C. on a clear
> day in July."
>
> Source: http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/faqs/health.htm
>
> Cheers,
> Paul


I guess myself and several dozen folks that have auto-immune problems I
associate with are mistaken. We have all noticed that we turn beet red
and begin sweating after more then 15 minutes in a store or any building
that has uncovered fluorescent lighting. The same reason we all have to
wear sunblock everyday all day just to go outdoors.
The studies you mention are with normal folks that don't have
auto-immune problems. Just a minute of exposure to sun light, outdoors,
will put me in bed for a day. I am in Fl.
I thank you for your research but I can not agree with you or the people
that are pushing the CFL's Chuck

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