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Another Roofing Question Dottie 05-27-2007
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Posted by Norminn on May 27, 2007, 9:19 pm
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> If you still have the link for Miami-Dade I would love to have it. I
> called our Pinellas Co. building dept and the man who talked to me
> didn't have answers to many of my questions.
>
> I am in the non-evac zone. We have been advised to brace the gable
> end (one end only, the other has a cathedral ceiling and braces
> itself) but nobody wants to do it....one person suggested we close up
> the vents at each end of the house to keep the wind out. He thought
> the air brought in by the soffit would be enough if we got a vent
> ridge along the top of the house.
>
> Our next door neighbor has two very large oak trees but there aren't
> any in our yard. The limbs have been trimmed so they aren't directly
> over my house. It's still "iffy".
>
>

Here is the link:
http://www.miamidade.gov/buildingcode/pc-search_app.asp

The gist of the issue with live oaks is when there looks like a "seam"
in the bark between two joined limbs, rather than continuous bark all
around...means it is two separate trees and much weaker than one tree
with two limbs, if that makes sense.

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Posted by MJ on May 28, 2007, 8:29 am
I have not followed all of this thread so someone may have said this.

Two resources for looking up products approved for use within Florida:
http://www.miamidade.gov/buildingcode/pc-search_app.asp
http://floridabuilding.org/pr/pr_app_srch.aspx

You may want to check:
www.mysafefloridahome.com/

It's a program where you can get matching funds to upgrade your roof,
get shutters, brace your gable ends, etc. You can get up to $5,000.
Part of the program involves someone coming out to inspect your home
and evaluate it to determine where you get the most bang for your buck
for wind mitigation efforts. Inspectors ability is a little bit hit
and miss in my experience. Rather than guessing what you should do
(sounds like you are?) you might get someone that knows more.

Your local building department should be able to tell you what the
"code minimum" requirements are for the windspeed in your area. Next,
you'll want to check what discounts your insurance company offers.
"Code Minimum" is not the same as "Code Plus" which is what many
insurance companies are going towards.



Posted by Dottie on May 28, 2007, 1:50 pm
> I have not followed all of this thread so someone may have said this.
>
> Two resources for looking up products approved for use within Florida:
> http://www.miamidade.gov/buildingcode/pc-search_app.asp
> http://floridabuilding.org/pr/pr_app_srch.aspx
>
> You may want to check:
> www.mysafefloridahome.com/
>
> It's a program where you can get matching funds to upgrade your roof,
> get shutters, brace your gable ends, etc. You can get up to $5,000.
> Part of the program involves someone coming out to inspect your home
> and evaluate it to determine where you get the most bang for your buck
> for wind mitigation efforts. Inspectors ability is a little bit hit
> and miss in my experience. Rather than guessing what you should do
> (sounds like you are?) you might get someone that knows more.
>
> Your local building department should be able to tell you what the
> "code minimum" requirements are for the windspeed in your area. Next,
> you'll want to check what discounts your insurance company offers.
> "Code Minimum" is not the same as "Code Plus" which is what many
> insurance companies are going towards.

****


I have applied to the My Safe Florida Home for a grant. They do not
reimburse you for putting on a new roof because that is considered
routine maintenance. They will, however, pay one half the cost of
putting the tape down on the seams while the roof is off to waterproof
it in case the shingles blow off ... keeps the water from coming into
the house and they mention "improving the survivability of your roof
covering. For example, upgrading to a thicker and stronger hurricane-
resistant roof shingle". The neighbor who just finished having his
roof done was approved for a grant. It's too soon to know how long
the process takes.

I did find a web site for my (Pinellas) county where you can type in
the name of the company manufacturing the shingles and it says if
they are approved, specifically by type of shingle.

I called my insurance company to see if they had the names of roofers
who they might have worked with and in the course of the conversation,
the woman who was a secretary volunteered the information that they
(State Farm) did not give any deductions on insurance for upgrading
the roofing material. There was a mention on the local news that a
man spent several thousand dollars improving his house against
hurricane dangers and his insurance company gave him a $16 reduction.
Don't know which ins. co. he had. I would love to get a lower price
for insurance but I am not expecting it to happen.


Posted by Norminn on May 27, 2007, 1:11 pm
Dottie wrote:
> One of the roofing companies I am getting an estimate from uses
> CertainTeed Landmark shingles. I had never heard of them before. Are
> they comparable to GAF and Owens Corning?
>
> Also - my husband and I are unable to agree on something. He thinks
> the shingles sold as being okay up to 80 mph are sufficient for us
> (Tampa Bay area) and I want the 110 mph kind. The 110 mph kind cost
> $1000 more (approximately) but I figure the peace of mind is worth
> it. Anyone here have any actual experience with hurricane winds and
> shingles. Thanks.
>
I've only experienced 70 mph winds, Tampa Bay area. That is as fast as
I ever care to see. Lots of shingles gone, including concrete, in our
neighborhood. Due to installation problems with our roof, the roofer
had been back to glue down the tabs - probably saved ours, although we
did lose a large skylight from our atrium.

I would be inclined to believe that the difference between 80 and 110
mph will give you more to worry about than shingles. The extra $1,000
might be better spent to put on hurricane straps if you don't already
have them.

How near the water are you? Above sea level? Trees near the house? I
went to a couple of hurricane seminars, and the most interesting speaker
was the county arborist. Shingles won't be worth dirt if you have
1,000# of live oak coming down :o) He illustrated features about trees
that make them dangerous, other than the obvious dead limbs.

We are on the water, so if there was a direct hit, I would leave for
higher ground. A 12' storm surge, at high tide, would flood our condo.
A 20' storm surge with 20' waves would be a problem for neighbors on
fourth floor. Another interesting tidbit is that in highrises, the
winds are faster than at ground level. Hurricane shutters here a must,
IMO. My hubby went out at the height of that storm to retrieve a
recycling barrel, very heavy, that was blowing down the street. He is
exceedingly strong, but it was a struggle for him to get it back home.

In one of the floods up north - Jersey? - I saw a TV spot about a guy
who put plastic sheet and sandbags all the way around his house and
about four feet up. His neighbors were all flooded out, but he had no
water in his house. I contemplated something similar before we
evacuated, but hubby didn't go for it :o)


Posted by Al Bundy on May 27, 2007, 4:54 pm
@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> One of the roofing companies I am getting an estimate from uses
> CertainTeed Landmark shingles. I had never heard of them before. Are
> they comparable to GAF and Owens Corning?
>
> Also - my husband and I are unable to agree on something. He thinks
> the shingles sold as being okay up to 80 mph are sufficient for us
> (Tampa Bay area) and I want the 110 mph kind. The 110 mph kind cost
> $1000 more (approximately) but I figure the peace of mind is worth
> it. Anyone here have any actual experience with hurricane winds and
> shingles. Thanks.
>


Will your insurance company take the quality/cost of them into account if
you have a claim or just pay you for cheapos? Might be a good Q to ask
them.

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