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Another framing question JohnnyC 06-13-2008
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Posted by JohnnyC on June 13, 2008, 12:42 pm
The floor of a 12x16 shed is PT 2x6 on top of a PT 2x8 mudsill. The bottom
of the floor frame varies from 6" to 12" above the ground due to a ground
slope. The mudsill is on solid concrete blocks. The decking is 3/4 ACX.

Do I need to seal the underside of the ACX with thompsons water seal or
something similar? I've read a couple of differing opinions that floors
will rot from underneath.

Also, is it required to put a layer of stone under the frame? I packed
gravel under the concrete blocks but not the entire width/length of the
floor frame.

Thank you for your time.


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Posted by Joe on June 13, 2008, 1:40 pm

>snip<.

> Do I need to seal the underside of the ACX with thompsons water seal or
> something similar? =A0I've read a couple of differing opinions that floors=

> will rot from underneath.

Thompson's products have had a sorry reputation for years starting
with a Consumer Reports test some years ago and experiences of users
in this NG IMO your logic for protecting the ACX is sensible. In
your situation I would likely spray on a coat of the cheapest oil
based polyurethane varnish I could find, Maybe even a PU porch paint.
It should take around 2 gallons for average coverage. Some polyfilm on
the ground to keep the humidity down might be modestly helpful (and
cheap).

Joe




Posted by RicodJour on June 13, 2008, 1:48 pm
> The floor of a 12x16 shed is PT 2x6 on top of a PT 2x8 mudsill. The botto=
m
> of the floor frame varies from 6" to 12" above the ground due to a ground
> slope. The mudsill is on solid concrete blocks. The decking is 3/4 ACX.
>
> Do I need to seal the underside of the ACX with thompsons water seal or
> something similar? I've read a couple of differing opinions that floors
> will rot from underneath.

Here's what the NY Code (a minor variation of the IRC) has to say
regarding the first question:

=A72304.11.2.1 Joists, girders and subfloor.
Where wood joists or the
bottom of a wood structural floor without joists are closer than
18
inches (457 mm), or wood girders are closer than 12 inches (305
mm), to
the exposed ground in crawl spaces or unexcavated areas located
within
the perimeter of the building foundation, the floor assembly
(including
posts, girders, joists and subfloor) shall be of naturally durable
or
preservative-treated wood.

AC plywood is not naturally durable.

> Also, is it required to put a layer of stone under the frame? I packed
> gravel under the concrete blocks but not the entire width/length of the
> floor frame.
>
> Thank you for your time.

I'm not sure I understand your shed construction - it sounds like the
foundation consists of some block sitting on gravel, which wouldn't
pass inspection around here. Under a certain size the requirements
are as stringent but when you go above that size you have to comply
with the standard requirements of the building code.

It would be cheap insurance to put down a layer of plastic under the
shed and cover it with gravel.

R

Posted by Wayne Whitney on June 13, 2008, 3:16 pm

> The floor of a 12x16 shed is PT 2x6 on top of a PT 2x8 mudsill. The bottom
> of the floor frame varies from 6" to 12" above the ground due to a ground
> slope. The mudsill is on solid concrete blocks. The decking is 3/4 ACX.

Use PT decking.

Wayne

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