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Another suggestion re spam LouB 04-22-2008
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Posted by Doug Miller on April 22, 2008, 9:23 pm
>On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:41:21 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>>A suggestion:
>>>>
>>>>If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
>>>>Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
>>>>header.
>>>>If the X-Abuse line shows groups-abuse@google.com then *Forward* the
>>>>whole damn thing to groups-abuse@google.com.
>>>>Just copy groups-abuse@google.com and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
>>>>the To
>>>>
>>>>Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
>>>>1. Get the message
>>>>2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
>>>>3. DO SOMETHING
>>>>
>>>
>>>In other words, react to a problem (usenet abuse) by CREATING MORE OF
>>>IT.
>>
>>Ummmm.... no. Read it again. He said to *forward* it to Google's abuse
>>account. That's an *email* complaint directly to Google.
>>
>
>OK, I'm a little bit off. You're reacting to a news problem by
>creating an email problem. That's still reacting to a problem by
>creating a problem.

Sure, but you have to look at who it's creating an email problem *for*:
Google. The same clowns who are responsible for the news problem.

What's wrong with that?

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Posted by Lee on April 22, 2008, 9:09 pm

LouB wrote:
> A suggestion:
>
> If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
> Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
> header.
> If the X-Abuse line shows groups-abuse@google.com then *Forward* the
> whole damn thing to groups-abuse@google.com.
> Just copy groups-abuse@google.com and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
> the To
>
> Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
> 1. Get the message
> 2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
> 3. DO SOMETHING
>
> BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.
>
> Lou
I'm betting the folks at Google have filters in place so that they don't
have to see the complaints, LOL. If they actually read 1/4 of the
complaints, they'd have a clue already...

Posted by David Nebenzahl on April 23, 2008, 12:20 am
On 4/22/2008 6:09 PM Lee spake thus:

> LouB wrote:
>
>> A suggestion:
>>
>> If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
>> Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
>> header.
>> If the X-Abuse line shows groups-abuse@google.com then *Forward* the
>> whole damn thing to groups-abuse@google.com.
>> Just copy groups-abuse@google.com and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
>> the To
>>
>> Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
>> 1. Get the message
>> 2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
>> 3. DO SOMETHING
>>
>> BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.
>>
> I'm betting the folks at Google have filters in place so that they don't
> have to see the complaints, LOL. If they actually read 1/4 of the
> complaints, they'd have a clue already...

They have a clue or three, of that you can be sure. As someone else
pointed out, they just don't give a shit about it.


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.

- Attributed to Winston Churchill

Posted by stu on April 23, 2008, 10:55 pm
> On 4/22/2008 6:09 PM Lee spake thus:
>
> > LouB wrote:
> >
> >> A suggestion:
> >>
> >> If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
> >> Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the
whole
> >> header.
> >> If the X-Abuse line shows groups-abuse@google.com then *Forward* the
> >> whole damn thing to groups-abuse@google.com.
> >> Just copy groups-abuse@google.com and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
> >> the To
> >>
> >> Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
> >> 1. Get the message
> >> 2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
> >> 3. DO SOMETHING
> >>
> >> BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.
> >>
> > I'm betting the folks at Google have filters in place so that they don't
> > have to see the complaints, LOL. If they actually read 1/4 of the
> > complaints, they'd have a clue already...
>
> They have a clue or three, of that you can be sure. As someone else
> pointed out, they just don't give a shit about it.
>
>
> --
> The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
> conversation with the average voter.
>
> - Attributed to Winston Churchill

Is it possible that google is just waiting until most isp's give up on
newservers, then they will "takeover" and then fix the problem they created?



Posted by David Nebenzahl on April 26, 2008, 1:15 am
On 4/23/2008 7:55 PM stu spake thus:

> Is it possible that google is just waiting until most isp's give up on
> newservers, then they will "takeover" and then fix the problem they created?

Definitely possible, likely even. They might "fix" Usenet by just
eliminating it altogether.


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.

- Attributed to Winston Churchill

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