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Ants & Termites Patty O 07-08-2006
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Posted by Patty O on July 8, 2006, 3:45 pm
Out in our shed we had lots of little bitty ants. More than I have EVER
seen before. In the past we've had good luck with Terro for these kind
of ants, but this time the Terro didn't even seem to put a dent in them.
An exterminator was over at the neighbor's so I got him over to look at
the situation. He showed me where the trail of ants was leading over to
an interior wall of the shed. This is an old shed, and it's divided in
2 parts by a wall that has siding on both sides. He showed me the mud
lines along the seams of the siding. Mud lines from termites inside
that wall. He told me ants are a natural predator of termites, and the
ants were feeding on the termites and then bringing the food outside to
their nest. I could see the ants carrying little bits on their way out.
When I made the guess to him that the ants would take care of the
termite problem, he then said the termites would start multiplying in
force and not be killed off completely. He gave me a bid of $250. to
take care of the termites and ants. I told him I'd think about it.
A couple of days later the ants were all gone. I had given up on the
Terro much earlier so I don't think it was the Terro that did it.
Do you think the exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill
off all of the termites and then quit coming in to the wall because
there was no food there for them anymore?


Posted by Dottie on July 8, 2006, 4:26 pm

I don't know about the termites - and I don't know about outside ants.
But I can tell you that this year we have had a lot of very tiny ants
in our kitchen. And I learned one thing....Terro that was left over
from last year would not work on them. I tried it several times and it
did nothing. I went down and bought some new Terro .... and the ants
were gone almost overnight.

I doubt if the ants killed the termites. If this is an old shed (as
opposed to main house where you live) I would call around and find some
termite poison and try to treat it myself.


Posted by Norminn on July 8, 2006, 8:15 pm
Patty O wrote:

> Out in our shed we had lots of little bitty ants. More than I have EVER
> seen before. In the past we've had good luck with Terro for these kind
> of ants, but this time the Terro didn't even seem to put a dent in them.
> An exterminator was over at the neighbor's so I got him over to look at
> the situation. He showed me where the trail of ants was leading over to
> an interior wall of the shed. This is an old shed, and it's divided in
> 2 parts by a wall that has siding on both sides. He showed me the mud
> lines along the seams of the siding. Mud lines from termites inside
> that wall. He told me ants are a natural predator of termites, and the
> ants were feeding on the termites and then bringing the food outside to
> their nest. I could see the ants carrying little bits on their way out.
> When I made the guess to him that the ants would take care of the
> termite problem, he then said the termites would start multiplying in
> force and not be killed off completely. He gave me a bid of $250. to
> take care of the termites and ants. I told him I'd think about it.
> A couple of days later the ants were all gone. I had given up on the
> Terro much earlier so I don't think it was the Terro that did it.
> Do you think the exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill
> off all of the termites and then quit coming in to the wall because
> there was no food there for them anymore?
>
Is the shed on a slab? Got mud tubes from ground to the wood? We have
ants that leave a trail of dirt along a seam on a plastic fence.
Termite mud tubes are quite different, and would lead from ground to
wood. You can scrape away mud tubes, and if they aren't re-built, then
the colony is no longer active. Scrape away the stuff on your seams,
tap around and poke into the wood with an awl or screw driver. If
termites have eaten into the wood, you should be able to detect some
deteriorated wood signs - blistery looking paint, hollow sound to wood,
or probe digging right into the wood. $250 to treat a shed seems a bit
steep - would probably buy a lot of new wood :o)

Posted by tom on July 8, 2006, 9:22 pm
Well, He was right about the "ants preying on the termites" part, I'll
attest. Tom
Patty O wrote:
> Out in our shed we had lots of little bitty ants. More than I have EVER
> seen before. In the past we've had good luck with Terro for these kind
> of ants, but this time the Terro didn't even seem to put a dent in them.
> An exterminator was over at the neighbor's so I got him over to look at
> the situation. He showed me where the trail of ants was leading over to
> an interior wall of the shed. This is an old shed, and it's divided in
> 2 parts by a wall that has siding on both sides. He showed me the mud
> lines along the seams of the siding. Mud lines from termites inside
> that wall. He told me ants are a natural predator of termites, and the
> ants were feeding on the termites and then bringing the food outside to
> their nest. I could see the ants carrying little bits on their way out.
> When I made the guess to him that the ants would take care of the
> termite problem, he then said the termites would start multiplying in
> force and not be killed off completely. He gave me a bid of $250. to
> take care of the termites and ants. I told him I'd think about it.
> A couple of days later the ants were all gone. I had given up on the
> Terro much earlier so I don't think it was the Terro that did it.
> Do you think the exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill
> off all of the termites and then quit coming in to the wall because
> there was no food there for them anymore?


Posted by Al Bundy on July 8, 2006, 11:41 pm
Patty1976@webtv.net (Patty O) wrote in

> Out in our shed we had lots of little bitty ants. More than I have
> EVER seen before. In the past we've had good luck with Terro for
> these kind of ants, but this time the Terro didn't even seem to put a
> dent in them. An exterminator was over at the neighbor's so I got him
> over to look at the situation. He showed me where the trail of ants
> was leading over to an interior wall of the shed. This is an old
> shed, and it's divided in 2 parts by a wall that has siding on both
> sides. He showed me the mud lines along the seams of the siding. Mud
> lines from termites inside that wall. He told me ants are a natural
> predator of termites, and the ants were feeding on the termites and
> then bringing the food outside to their nest. I could see the ants
> carrying little bits on their way out. When I made the guess to him
> that the ants would take care of the termite problem, he then said the
> termites would start multiplying in force and not be killed off
> completely. He gave me a bid of $250. to take care of the termites
> and ants. I told him I'd think about it. A couple of days later the
> ants were all gone. I had given up on the Terro much earlier so I
> don't think it was the Terro that did it. Do you think the
> exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill off all of the
> termites and then quit coming in to the wall because there was no food
> there for them anymore?
>


I moved to the mid south a couple of yrs ago from way north where there
are no fire ants or termites at all. Quickly learned about the fire ants
and just how nasty they can be. Property had been vacant for some time.
Fire ants had many many mounds in the undisturbed grass. To get them
managed initially I called an exterminator to come juice the mounds and
foundation. She did say the one good thing about fire ants was they will
kill termites.

One day I find an old piece of wood way in the back of the yard. I pull
it up to toss out and there's termites in it. What I learned about fire
ant mounds is you tap around it and in a matter of a few seconds
hundreds are pouring out to kill whatever. So I put this piece of
termite ridden wood next to a decent fire ant pile. Tap on the ground
with my shoe toe. Out they came. You shoulda seen those ants tear them
up climbing into the holes and pulling out what was hidden too. I figure
must take like chicken to them.

So, fire ants and termites have a useful purpose - entertainment.

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