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Ants & Termites Patty O 07-08-2006
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Posted by Norminn on July 9, 2006, 6:51 am
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> So, fire ants and termites have a useful purpose - entertainment.

Don't forget the carpenter ants! They are awesome - they have strong
jays and can hang on to skin like nothing I have seen. When my grandson
was a toddler, he liked to pick them up and squash them between his
fingers! Ick! Our tree trimmer, once in a while, comes flying down the
ladder and does a dance to get the nasties off himself. Termies and
carpenter ants share housing, but seem to alternate in dominance year to
year. Disturb a carpenter ant mound and they come pouring out with
their offspring on their backs. Hubby and I used to time fire ants
coming out to eat the bait we laid down - record was 24 seconds :o) I
understand africanized bees are in Florida - doubt they will be as
entertaining, butcha never know.

I used to do nature photography and when I was new to Florida, I thought
mebbe my tripod had a fire ant-mound magnet in it; never failed that I
would have a perfect shot ready to shoot on top of a fire ant mound with
the nasties crawling on my feet :o)

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Posted by Al Bundy on July 9, 2006, 11:32 pm

> clipped
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>> So, fire ants and termites have a useful purpose - entertainment.
>
> Don't forget the carpenter ants! They are awesome - they have strong
> jays and can hang on to skin like nothing I have seen. When my
> grandson was a toddler, he liked to pick them up and squash them
> between his fingers!

You needed to give that youngin' a magnifying glass and show him how to
use it with the sun. They love the Snap-Cracle-Pop!

> Ick! Our tree trimmer, once in a while, comes flying down the
> ladder and does a dance to get the nasties off himself. Termies and
> carpenter ants share housing, but seem to alternate in dominance year
> to year. Disturb a carpenter ant mound and they come pouring out with
> their offspring on their backs. Hubby and I used to time fire ants
> coming out to eat the bait we laid down - record was 24 seconds :o)

I think you timed a fire ant nursing home.

> I
> understand africanized bees are in Florida - doubt they will be as
> entertaining, butcha never know.
>
> I used to do nature photography and when I was new to Florida, I
> thought mebbe my tripod had a fire ant-mound magnet in it; never
> failed that I would have a perfect shot ready to shoot on top of a
> fire ant mound with the nasties crawling on my feet :o)
>



Posted by Phisherman on July 9, 2006, 7:17 am
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 14:45:53 -0500, Patty1976@webtv.net (Patty O)
wrote:

>Out in our shed we had lots of little bitty ants. More than I have EVER
>seen before. In the past we've had good luck with Terro for these kind
>of ants, but this time the Terro didn't even seem to put a dent in them.
>An exterminator was over at the neighbor's so I got him over to look at
>the situation. He showed me where the trail of ants was leading over to
>an interior wall of the shed. This is an old shed, and it's divided in
>2 parts by a wall that has siding on both sides. He showed me the mud
>lines along the seams of the siding. Mud lines from termites inside
>that wall. He told me ants are a natural predator of termites, and the
>ants were feeding on the termites and then bringing the food outside to
>their nest. I could see the ants carrying little bits on their way out.
>When I made the guess to him that the ants would take care of the
>termite problem, he then said the termites would start multiplying in
>force and not be killed off completely. He gave me a bid of $250. to
>take care of the termites and ants. I told him I'd think about it.
>A couple of days later the ants were all gone. I had given up on the
>Terro much earlier so I don't think it was the Terro that did it.
>Do you think the exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill
>off all of the termites and then quit coming in to the wall because
>there was no food there for them anymore?

I have doubts the exterminator was telling you fibs. The bid sound
high for a shed, so in this case you might consider treating the
problem yourself. See if the colony is active, poke around the wood
to search for damage using an awl, use a product made for termites,
and periodically re-inspect. Keep the area around the shed clean,
dry, and clutter-free. I give my house a five-minute foundation
inspection about once a month--no termites yet!

Posted by Randy Cox on July 9, 2006, 11:38 am

> Do you think the exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill
> off all of the termites and then quit coming in to the wall because
> there was no food there for them anymore?

I don't know about the ants, but if you don't pay the exterminator his $250,
he'll probably disappear along with the ants. When the food is gone, the
termites will be gone...and your shed.

Randy R. Cox



Posted by Lar on July 9, 2006, 12:52 pm
@webtv.net says...
:) Out in our shed we had lots of little bitty ants. More than I have EVER
:) seen before. In the past we've had good luck with Terro for these kind
:) of ants, but this time the Terro didn't even seem to put a dent in them.

Ants diets change for the needs of the colony. One time a sugar bait
works great, the next time if they are feeding on proteins so they
totally ignore it. Another situation depending on the type of ant,
foraging ant trails are just a small percentage of the colony. So when
you have a few dozen ants at a time in the kitchen putting out the bait
can get quick results on a nest of a thousand or so ants. A foraging
trail of a colony with a population of 200,000 can end up being a trail
of "More than I have EVER seen before" and can take quite awhile before
you see a noticeable reduction with the baits.



:) An exterminator was over at the neighbor's so I got him over to look at
:) the situation. He showed me where the trail of ants was leading over to
:) an interior wall of the shed. This is an old shed, and it's divided in
:) 2 parts by a wall that has siding on both sides. He showed me the mud
:) lines along the seams of the siding. Mud lines from termites inside
:) that wall. He told me ants are a natural predator of termites, and the
:) ants were feeding on the termites and then bringing the food outside to
:) their nest. I could see the ants carrying little bits on their way out.
:) When I made the guess to him that the ants would take care of the
:) termite problem, he then said the termites would start multiplying in
:) force and not be killed off completely.

Some ants are natural predators to termites, the tiny ants will not be.
I have never heard of the ants that do forage on termites,(fire ants,
carpenter ants) being able to eliminate a termite colony.




:) He gave me a bid of $250. to
:) take care of the termites and ants. I told him I'd think about it.
:) A couple of days later the ants were all gone. I had given up on the
:) Terro much earlier so I don't think it was the Terro that did it.
:) Do you think the exterminator was telling me fibs, and the ants did kill
:) off all of the termites and then quit coming in to the wall because
:) there was no food there for them anymore?

Possibly the Terro worked after more time but I would guess what you
were seeing was the colony in transit moving from one nest site to
another and what you thought was "food particles" may of been
eggs/pupa/larvae the ants were carrying to the new nest site. Really
impossible to say for sure.

--
Lar

It is said that the early bird gets the worm,
but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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