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Any product from China worth buying? RichK 11-24-2007
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Posted by Meat Plow on November 25, 2007, 12:01 pm
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:07:44 -0500, RichK wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering, because I'm having terrible luck with anything made in
> China. In most cases I have no choice, but to buy the junk that fails a
> month after the warranty.
>
> About a year ago, I got two small space heaters. Both made in China, but
> different brands. They lasted one winter with only occasional use.
>
> One failed completely - this is one from Target, made by Midea Fan Mfg. The
> one-shot thermal protector opened. Second was made by (rather marketed by)
> Holmes, but also made in China. The Holmes unit burned one of the heating
> elements and was only putting out low heat.
>
> I bought the Holmes, because the last heater I had from them lasted 15
> years. The difference seems to be where they are made. Even if China
> sourced products are sold at half the price, my cost over 15 years will be 5
> times.
>
> Both are very simple appliances. Can't the Chinese make anything that will
> even approach what was on the US market before?
>

They know how to cook.


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Posted by JimR on November 25, 2007, 7:03 pm

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:07:44 -0500, RichK wrote:

[snip]
Can't the Chinese make anything that will
>> even approach what was on the US market before?
>>
>
> They know how to cook.
>
Chinese furniture, fabrics, native products can't be touched by U.S. or
European manufacturers. Look at the joinery and construction in a good
piece of Chinese furniture. No one does it better.

Other Chinese manufacturing has been hampered by a lack of good steel, a
result of Mao's decision to make steel a basis for the Great Leap Forward
and backyard steel mills. China also suffered during that period by the
effort of the central government to exert control and a lack of contact with
the outside world, which kept China uninformed on technology developments.

When the right resources are available -- including capital -- Chinese
products can be world class, especially where it is the product of craftsmen
rather than assembly-line production.

FYI, Buick, Volkswagen, Benz, Ford and others now produce vehicles in China,
and Chevy uses a Chinese-produced engine in one of their "U.S."-made cars.

Most manufacturing compounds provide apartments for worker housing and
hospitals and doctors for worker medical care. Medical care is provided by
the manufacturer or a manufacturing consortium; worker apartment rent runs
in the range of $5-$10 per month. (Rents for foreigners are measured in
$1000s per month).

Jaguar and Ferrari have had dealerships in China for over 25 years to
capitalize on the Chinese luxury car market.

The Heritage Foundation rated Hong Kong -- a special administrative region
of China -- as having the world's best free-market economy. What's happened
since 1997 is that, rather than having Hong Kong start to look like the rest
of China, the rest of China is rapidly changing to look like Hong Kong, at
least in the major population areas.

The problem with Chinese product quality is to a large degree a result of
design and management problems (including price pressure) by the buyer.
China factories will produce whatever sells.

There are some items that I will only buy from Chinese manufacturers --
e.g., furniture and wood work -- and others where the source is unimportant.
I have enough experience with China to know that there are still issues with
a clumsy central government, which really doesn't have much authority over
the provinces, and with public perceptions that in some ways haven't changed
in 30 years although China is light years different today. But if I'm going
to buy something, I'm going to try and determine the quality of the product,
or the reputation of the seller, and not worry about the original source of
manufacture.




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