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Any propane users out there? IGot2P 04-22-2008
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Posted by dadiOH on April 24, 2008, 7:11 am
David L. Martel wrote:
> dadiOh,
>
> Are you complaining because I pay less than you at $2.60/gal or
> because the OP is paying $2.10/gal?

I wasn't complqaining, just saying $2.60 is a deal - less than what
wholesale has been for several months.

> $5.36/gal? I hope you don't heat a lot in Florida. Is that the
> price to fill up the grill tank?

No, its a 120 gallon tank. Last delivery was 72.6 gallons. Used for hot
water, cooktop and - occasionally - fireplace starter.


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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on April 23, 2008, 8:15 am

>Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
>price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
>truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
>$1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
>this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
>about prices elsewhere.

Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]

>
>The bummer (besides the price) is that each year they keep wanting all
>of their money earlier in the year if you prepay. This year you must be
>paid in full by May 1st even though we will probably not start using the
>propane for heating until mid October.

They want to use your money for free. My gas company doesn't offer
'prepay' or 'budget plans' for the little I use. But my fuel oil
dealer does. I've passed on the deal every year, but have noted the
offer and prices for the last 5 years. This is the first year it
would have saved me anything. I used $1300 worth of oil this year
& would have saved $150. But I would have had to pay$1200 last July
instead of pay-as-you-go.

In my extremely frugal moments I have considered buying a second 275
gallon oil tank and filling them both in the summer when I can get the
best deal from whoever I choose.

Jim

Posted by runsrealfast on April 23, 2008, 10:50 am

> In my extremely frugal moments I have considered buying a second 275
> gallon oil tank and filling them both in the summer when I can get the
> best deal from whoever I choose.


I have a "nice" propane delivery man. What he does each year is let
our tanks run almost empty (we only use out propane tank for our
fireplace) in the spring. Then in the summer he shows up and fills it
at the cheaper summer rates (at least the last two years its been
cheaper). I guess there still is some good customer service out there.

John


Posted by terry on April 23, 2008, 11:17 am
> >Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
> >price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
> >truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
> >$1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
> >this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
> >about prices elsewhere.
>
> Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. =A0 Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
> July- and by Jan it was $3.30. =A0[and stayed there through last month.]
>
>
>
> >The bummer (besides the price) is that each year they keep wanting all
> >of their money earlier in the year if you prepay. This year you must be
> >paid in full by May 1st even though we will probably not start using the
> >propane for heating until mid October.
>
> They want to use your money for free. =A0 =A0 My gas company doesn't offer=

> 'prepay' or 'budget plans' for the little I use. =A0 But my fuel oil
> dealer does. =A0 I've passed on the deal every year, but have noted the
> offer and prices for the last 5 years. =A0 =A0 This is the first year it
> would have saved me anything. =A0 =A0 I used $1300 worth of oil this year
> & would have saved $150. =A0 But I would have had to pay$1200 last July
> instead of pay-as-you-go. =A0
>
> In my extremely frugal moments I have considered buying a second 275
> gallon oil tank and filling them both in the summer when I can get the
> best deal from whoever I choose. =A0 =A0 =A0
>
> Jim

Seems like the best thing would be to calculate how much interest it
would cost you to borrow the cost of a fill-up, from say the bank, six
months in advance of when you will need it?
If, for example the interest rate is say 6% and it will cost $500 for
the fuel, buying it six months in advance. 6% annum. on $500 =3D $30.
So for half a year; it will cost you, in interest, about $15 to fill
up 'now' rather than wait for start of next burning season?
And if you could save that, or more, by the 'now' decision it's a no-
brainer.
Since many bank LOCs require a minimum monthly payment your monthly
payout until heating season might be 2% =3D $10/mo, so that after six
months you will have paid out $60 (principle plus interest) and will
then owe at the time you would be buying fuel anyway, a remaining
balance of about $455.
Of course with the prices of all fuels going up and the value of the
dollar somewhat in doubt maybe a supply of fuel on hand would be a
good decision?

Posted by runsrealfast on April 23, 2008, 5:49 pm
>
>
>
> > >Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
> > >price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
> > >truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
> > >$1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
> > >this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
> > >about prices elsewhere.
>
> > Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
> > July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]
>
> > >The bummer (besides the price) is that each year they keep wanting all
> > >of their money earlier in the year if you prepay. This year you must be
> > >paid in full by May 1st even though we will probably not start using the
> > >propane for heating until mid October.
>
> > They want to use your money for free. My gas company doesn't offer
> > 'prepay' or 'budget plans' for the little I use. But my fuel oil
> > dealer does. I've passed on the deal every year, but have noted the
> > offer and prices for the last 5 years. This is the first year it
> > would have saved me anything. I used $1300 worth of oil this year
> > & would have saved $150. But I would have had to pay$1200 last July
> > instead of pay-as-you-go.
>
> > In my extremely frugal moments I have considered buying a second 275
> > gallon oil tank and filling them both in the summer when I can get the
> > best deal from whoever I choose.
>
> > Jim
>
> Seems like the best thing would be to calculate how much interest it
> would cost you to borrow the cost of a fill-up, from say the bank, six
> months in advance of when you will need it?
> If, for example the interest rate is say 6% and it will cost $500 for
> the fuel, buying it six months in advance. 6% annum. on $500 = $30.
> So for half a year; it will cost you, in interest, about $15 to fill
> up 'now' rather than wait for start of next burning season?
> And if you could save that, or more, by the 'now' decision it's a no-
> brainer.
> Since many bank LOCs require a minimum monthly payment your monthly
> payout until heating season might be 2% = $10/mo, so that after six
> months you will have paid out $60 (principle plus interest) and will
> then owe at the time you would be buying fuel anyway, a remaining
> balance of about $455.


Instead of a loan most bank have some sort of revolving line of
credit. Might not be a bad idea if the interest rate is good.

John

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