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Any propane users out there? IGot2P 04-22-2008
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Posted by S. Barker on April 25, 2008, 12:40 pm
how do you get 6% on short term savings? do tell.


s


> >Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
> >price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
> >truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
> >$1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
> >this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
> >about prices elsewhere.
>
> Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
> July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]
>
>
>
> >The bummer (besides the price) is that each year they keep wanting all
> >of their money earlier in the year if you prepay. This year you must be
> >paid in full by May 1st even though we will probably not start using the
> >propane for heating until mid October.
>
> They want to use your money for free. My gas company doesn't offer
> 'prepay' or 'budget plans' for the little I use. But my fuel oil
> dealer does. I've passed on the deal every year, but have noted the
> offer and prices for the last 5 years. This is the first year it
> would have saved me anything. I used $1300 worth of oil this year
> & would have saved $150. But I would have had to pay$1200 last July
> instead of pay-as-you-go.
>
> In my extremely frugal moments I have considered buying a second 275
> gallon oil tank and filling them both in the summer when I can get the
> best deal from whoever I choose.
>
> Jim

Seems like the best thing would be to calculate how much interest it
would cost you to borrow the cost of a fill-up, from say the bank, six
months in advance of when you will need it?
If, for example the interest rate is say 6% and it will cost $500 for
the fuel, buying it six months in advance. 6% annum. on $500 = $30.
So for half a year; it will cost you, in interest, about $15 to fill
up 'now' rather than wait for start of next burning season?
And if you could save that, or more, by the 'now' decision it's a no-
brainer.
Since many bank LOCs require a minimum monthly payment your monthly
payout until heating season might be 2% = $10/mo, so that after six
months you will have paid out $60 (principle plus interest) and will
then owe at the time you would be buying fuel anyway, a remaining
balance of about $455.
Of course with the prices of all fuels going up and the value of the
dollar somewhat in doubt maybe a supply of fuel on hand would be a
good decision?



Posted by willshak on April 24, 2008, 9:35 am
on 4/23/2008 8:15 AM Jim Elbrecht said the following:
>
>
>> Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
>> price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
>> truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
>> $1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
>> this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
>> about prices elsewhere.
>>
>
> Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
> July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]
>

I paid $2.75 a gal. last December. I get automatic delivery--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Posted by on April 24, 2008, 10:19 am

> on 4/23/2008 8:15 AM Jim Elbrecht said the following:
>>
>>
>>> Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
>>> price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
>>> truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
>>> $1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
>>> this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
>>> about prices elsewhere.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
>> July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]
>>
>
> I paid $2.75 a gal. last December. I get automatic delivery--
>

WOW! It's WAAAY more expensive to have them come and fill a tank. I take my
two 20lb tanks to the local welding supply store and it's $38 for 40lbs. I'm
in upstate NY, too.



Posted by willshak on April 24, 2008, 10:44 am
on 4/24/2008 10:19 AM h said the following:
>
>> on 4/23/2008 8:15 AM Jim Elbrecht said the following:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
>>>> price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
>>>> truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
>>>> $1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
>>>> this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
>>>> about prices elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
>>> July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]
>>>
>>>
>> I paid $2.75 a gal. last December. I get automatic delivery--
>>
>>
>
> WOW! It's WAAAY more expensive to have them come and fill a tank. I take my
> two 20lb tanks to the local welding supply store and it's $38 for 40lbs. I'm
> in upstate NY, too.
>
>
>

Yep, you pay for the driver's salary and benefits, the gasoline used to
deliver the propane, wear and tear on the truck, the overhead, and profit.


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Posted by on April 24, 2008, 2:54 pm

> on 4/24/2008 10:19 AM h said the following:
>>
>>> on 4/23/2008 8:15 AM Jim Elbrecht said the following:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just got a call from my supplier here in SE Iowa and their contract
>>>>> price for next year (if prepaid) is $1.929.....current price off the
>>>>> truck is $2.099. For comparison purposes we contracted 800 gallon at
>>>>> $1.569 last year. I realize that propane is normally less expensive in
>>>>> this part of the country than in most other parts but was just curious
>>>>> about prices elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah- I guess it's cheaper. Here in upstate NY I paid $2.70 last
>>>> July- and by Jan it was $3.30. [and stayed there through last month.]
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I paid $2.75 a gal. last December. I get automatic delivery--
>>>
>>>
>>
>> WOW! It's WAAAY more expensive to have them come and fill a tank. I take
>> my two 20lb tanks to the local welding supply store and it's $38 for
>> 40lbs. I'm in upstate NY, too.
>>
>>
>
> Yep, you pay for the driver's salary and benefits, the gasoline used to
> deliver the propane, wear and tear on the truck, the overhead, and profit.
>
Agreed, but I'm paying less than $1 a pound, and delivery is $3.30 a pound.
$2.30 a pound seems like REALLY high overhead. I may have to re-think
putting in a propane cook top and fireplaces, and just stay with electric
and wood.



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