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Auto repair scam Edwin Pawlowski 07-14-2006
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Posted by Tom G on July 15, 2006, 1:37 am

> This was posted on another newsgroup, but since many of us here use these
> (loosely to home repair) related services, I though many would be
> interested.
>
> From a recent Los Angeles TV station news segment:
>
> http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9152183/detail.html
Friend of mine took his car to a Jiffy Lube in AZ for oil change and
transmission oil change. 3 months later he went back to get another oil
change and they showed him how badly his transmission needed an oil change
because the oil was so dirty. He informed them that they apparently hadn't
given him the transmission service he had paid for three months before and
demanded a refund. He got it and never went back to that place. It's not
just the national chains that do this crap. I went to a local car wash/ oil
change place in Mesa, AZ. They had a waiting room that overlooked the
service bays. While waiting I get a page to pick up the courtesy phone
which just happens to be at a window overlooking the service bay. It's a
tech below the window showing me a paper towel. He wipes my tranny dipstick
on the towel and proceeds to tell me how dirty and burnt the oil is. And at
the right moment as if on cue, another tech runs up and squirts some fresh
transmission fluid on the towel to show me what it's supposed to look like.
He may have been right but 25 plus years as a salesman makes me a little too
skeptical of "canned" sales pitches. I passed.

Tom G



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Posted by edb on July 15, 2006, 8:36 am
Thank you for posting that story.......
Ed B
> This was posted on another newsgroup, but since many of us here use these
> (loosely to home repair) related services, I though many would be
> interested.
>
> From a recent Los Angeles TV station news segment:
>
> http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9152183/detail.html
>



Posted by on July 15, 2006, 9:49 am
my elderly mother went to penzoil quick oil change . they scared her
to get a "radiator flush" and "transmission flush" . i was so mad that i
went down there and got her money back. i showed them the dirt stil in
both. they said " the flush doesnt get it all out". and true flush runs
water thru the whole cooling system till it runs clear,then refill. and
a trans fill requires getting all the old fluid out before fill.what
ripp off artists. lucas

http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm


Posted by Jeff Wisnia on July 15, 2006, 2:06 pm
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> This was posted on another newsgroup, but since many of us here use these
> (loosely to home repair) related services, I though many would be
> interested.
>
> From a recent Los Angeles TV station news segment:
>
> http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9152183/detail.html
>
>

I'm not suprised one bit.

I generally use Jiffy Lube for oil changes, just to save the time of
having to drop my car off somewhere and return for it, but I never let
'em sell me anything BUT an oil/filter change. And, I watch through the
window and raise the hood before I leave to make sure the part of the
filter I can see looks brand new. (I suppose they could just wipe the
grime off the old one, huh?)

Jiffy Lube around here had an obnoxious practice of tacking on an extra
buck and a half to their advertised prices for "waste oil disposal".
That charge was described on a small notice on the front of the service
counter of a size which a lawyer would describe as, "One designed to
suppress the transfer of information."

That practice violated a state law here which says that places selling
motor oil in quantities greater than some limited amount (Like maybe the
few quarts a week that a "Store 24" would sell.) had to take used oil in
for disposal at no charge.

I expect that law was designed to encourage DIY oil changers to return
used oil to a merchant rather than just dumping it down a storm drain to
avoid paying a disposal charge.

After a couple of years of paying that fee, and just for shits and
grins, I tossed a two gallon gan in my car when I went to Jiffy Lube for
an oil change and asked if they'd put my old oil in it. I told the guy
that I heated my garage/workshop with a waste oil burner in the winter.
They refused, saying it was against company policy to do that.

Somebody with more time to waste than me must have pushed the matter,
because last year SWMBO and I each received a $5 settlement coupon from
Jiffy Lube, which I'm sure was far less than the total of the $1.50
charges we'd paid several times a year for at least five years, but half
a loaf is better than none, isn't it?

Well, maybe not....

When I tried using the $5 settlement coupon on our next oil change my
local Jiffy Lube place didn't consider it the same as "cash". They
wouldn't let me use it in conjunction with the "$8 off your next oil
change" card they always send me a couple of months after I've been
there. It was "one or the other", so I used the "$8 off" one, tore up
the $5 settlement card, and dropped it in their wastebasket.

Just to find out whether this was maybe a local Jiffy Lube asshole
excersizing his "positional authority" I rang up their 800 number and
was told by a Jiffy Lube customer relations guy that the "terms of that
settlement" included permitting them to not accept those $5 settlement
cupons in conjunction with any other discounts. He did tell me that I
was far from the first irritated customer to call about that.

Some "settlement", huh? They're just another bunch of sharp cookies
selling Girl Scouts.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"What do you expect from a pig but a grunt?"

Posted by =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= on July 15, 2006, 10:13 pm
Jeff Wisnia posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > This was posted on another newsgroup, but since many of us here use these
> > (loosely to home repair) related services, I though many would be
> > interested.
> >
> > From a recent Los Angeles TV station news segment:
> >
> > http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9152183/detail.html
> >
> >
>
> I'm not suprised one bit.
>
> I generally use Jiffy Lube for oil changes, just to save the time of
> having to drop my car off somewhere and return for it, but I never let
> 'em sell me anything BUT an oil/filter change. And, I watch through the
> window and raise the hood before I leave to make sure the part of the
> filter I can see looks brand new. (I suppose they could just wipe the
> grime off the old one, huh?)
>
> Jiffy Lube around here had an obnoxious practice of tacking on an extra
> buck and a half to their advertised prices for "waste oil disposal".
> That charge was described on a small notice on the front of the service
> counter of a size which a lawyer would describe as, "One designed to
> suppress the transfer of information."
>
> That practice violated a state law here which says that places selling
> motor oil in quantities greater than some limited amount (Like maybe the
> few quarts a week that a "Store 24" would sell.) had to take used oil in
> for disposal at no charge.
>
> I expect that law was designed to encourage DIY oil changers to return
> used oil to a merchant rather than just dumping it down a storm drain to
> avoid paying a disposal charge.
>
> After a couple of years of paying that fee, and just for shits and
> grins, I tossed a two gallon gan in my car when I went to Jiffy Lube for
> an oil change and asked if they'd put my old oil in it. I told the guy
> that I heated my garage/workshop with a waste oil burner in the winter.
> They refused, saying it was against company policy to do that.
>
> Somebody with more time to waste than me must have pushed the matter,
> because last year SWMBO and I each received a $5 settlement coupon from
> Jiffy Lube, which I'm sure was far less than the total of the $1.50
> charges we'd paid several times a year for at least five years, but half
> a loaf is better than none, isn't it?
>
> Well, maybe not....
>
> When I tried using the $5 settlement coupon on our next oil change my
> local Jiffy Lube place didn't consider it the same as "cash". They
> wouldn't let me use it in conjunction with the "$8 off your next oil
> change" card they always send me a couple of months after I've been
> there. It was "one or the other", so I used the "$8 off" one, tore up
> the $5 settlement card, and dropped it in their wastebasket.
>
> Just to find out whether this was maybe a local Jiffy Lube asshole
> excersizing his "positional authority" I rang up their 800 number and
> was told by a Jiffy Lube customer relations guy that the "terms of that
> settlement" included permitting them to not accept those $5 settlement
> cupons in conjunction with any other discounts. He did tell me that I
> was far from the first irritated customer to call about that.
>
> Some "settlement", huh? They're just another bunch of sharp cookies
> selling Girl Scouts.
>
> Jeff
>
>
But yet you STILL go... Shame on you.
--
Tekkie

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