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Posted by Puddin' Man on January 6, 2007, 3:24 pm
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>tnom@mucks.net wrote:
>>>>Your fault may not be the battery pack,but perhaps a bad switch.
>>>Lost me here. I flip the switch, it closes the circuit.
>>
>>
>> It opens the motor circuit and simultaneously closes the recharge
>> circuit. The problem with the B&D dustbuster switch is that the
>> recharge connection doesn't always make a proper connection so
>> that many times the Ni-Cads go uncharged.
Yes, I've had that problem a time or 2 in past years.
It's not the problem I described at all.
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>My curious mind wonders why that switch has to disconnect the recharge
>circuit?
That makes 2 of us ...
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>Our Dustbuster doesn't do that. But it's about 15 years old and I've
>changed the NiCads about three times now, using those tabbed cells from
>Radio Shack. (Takes a bit of soldering though.)
Yeah, I've done that with a little Norelco trimmer. RS finally
pulled the battery, I ordered 1 more from the inet.
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>Mine recharges when it's hung on its wall rack and since there's a diode
>in the charging path inside it you wouldn't do anything bad if you
>accidently shorted the two charging contacts on its underside with the
>motor running or not.
As near as I can tell, my DB is charging OK.
P
Pease pudding hot,
Pease pudding cold,
Pease pudding in the pot
Nine days old ...
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Posted by Jim Yanik on January 6, 2007, 4:12 pm
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> On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:20:33 -0500, Jeff Wisnia
>
>>tnom@mucks.net wrote:
>>>>>Your fault may not be the battery pack,but perhaps a bad switch.
>>>>Lost me here. I flip the switch, it closes the circuit.
>>>
>>>
>>> It opens the motor circuit and simultaneously closes the recharge
>>> circuit. The problem with the B&D dustbuster switch is that the
>>> recharge connection doesn't always make a proper connection so
>>> that many times the Ni-Cads go uncharged.
>
> Yes, I've had that problem a time or 2 in past years.
>
> It's not the problem I described at all.
>
>>My curious mind wonders why that switch has to disconnect the recharge
>>circuit?
>
> That makes 2 of us ...
>
>>Our Dustbuster doesn't do that. But it's about 15 years old and I've
>>changed the NiCads about three times now, using those tabbed cells
>>from Radio Shack. (Takes a bit of soldering though.)
>
> Yeah, I've done that with a little Norelco trimmer. RS finally
> pulled the battery, I ordered 1 more from the inet.
>
>>Mine recharges when it's hung on its wall rack and since there's a
>>diode in the charging path inside it you wouldn't do anything bad if
>>you accidently shorted the two charging contacts on its underside with
>>the motor running or not.
>
> As near as I can tell, my DB is charging OK.
>
> P
>
>
> Pease pudding hot,
> Pease pudding cold,
> Pease pudding in the pot
> Nine days old ...
>
Maybe the motor itself has bad brushes,or worn/sticky bearings.
there's not much else in there....
Battery,switch,motor;your problem is in one of those three items.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
kua.net
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Posted by Jim Yanik on January 6, 2007, 4:09 pm
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> tnom@mucks.net wrote:
>>>>Your fault may not be the battery pack,but perhaps a bad switch.
>>>Lost me here. I flip the switch, it closes the circuit.
>>
>>
>> It opens the motor circuit and simultaneously closes the recharge
>> circuit. The problem with the B&D dustbuster switch is that the
>> recharge connection doesn't always make a proper connection so
>> that many times the Ni-Cads go uncharged.
>
> My curious mind wonders why that switch has to disconnect the recharge
> circuit?
>
> Our Dustbuster doesn't do that. But it's about 15 years old and I've
> changed the NiCads about three times now, using those tabbed cells from
> Radio Shack. (Takes a bit of soldering though.)
>
> Mine recharges when it's hung on its wall rack and since there's a diode
> in the charging path inside it you wouldn't do anything bad if you
> accidently shorted the two charging contacts on its underside with the
> motor running or not.
>
> Jeff
>
did you know the Dustbuster cells are of a type designed for being left on
charge all the time,24/7/365 ? Digi-Key carrys them,but DeWalt charged me
less than what it would have cost to buy just the cells.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
kua.net
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Posted by Puddin' Man on January 6, 2007, 6:04 pm
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>> tnom@mucks.net wrote:
>>>>>Your fault may not be the battery pack,but perhaps a bad switch.
>>>>Lost me here. I flip the switch, it closes the circuit.
>>>
>>>
>>> It opens the motor circuit and simultaneously closes the recharge
>>> circuit. The problem with the B&D dustbuster switch is that the
>>> recharge connection doesn't always make a proper connection so
>>> that many times the Ni-Cads go uncharged.
>>
>> My curious mind wonders why that switch has to disconnect the recharge
>> circuit?
>>
>> Our Dustbuster doesn't do that. But it's about 15 years old and I've
>> changed the NiCads about three times now, using those tabbed cells from
>> Radio Shack. (Takes a bit of soldering though.)
>>
>> Mine recharges when it's hung on its wall rack and since there's a diode
>> in the charging path inside it you wouldn't do anything bad if you
>> accidently shorted the two charging contacts on its underside with the
>> motor running or not.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>did you know the Dustbuster cells are of a type designed for being left on
>charge all the time,24/7/365 ?
You mean left on the charger base? Yes.
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>Digi-Key carrys them,but DeWalt charged me
>less than what it would have cost to buy just the cells.
If you remember: how long ago? How much $?
Thx,
P
Pease pudding hot,
Pease pudding cold,
Pease pudding in the pot
Nine days old ...
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Posted by Jim Yanik on January 7, 2007, 11:17 am
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>>did you know the Dustbuster cells are of a type designed for being
>>left on charge all the time,24/7/365 ?
>
> You mean left on the charger base? Yes.
"left on the base" means they are being charged constantly.
There's no smarts in the DB charger of that era.
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>
>>Digi-Key carrys them,but DeWalt charged me
>>less than what it would have cost to buy just the cells.
>
> If you remember: how long ago? How much $?
>
> Thx,
> P
IIRC,it was $18 to replace the pack at the DeWalt service center,took a
week. A new DB would have cost around $22,IIRC.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
kua.net
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>>>>Your fault may not be the battery pack,but perhaps a bad switch.
>>>Lost me here. I flip the switch, it closes the circuit.
>>
>>
>> It opens the motor circuit and simultaneously closes the recharge
>> circuit. The problem with the B&D dustbuster switch is that the
>> recharge connection doesn't always make a proper connection so
>> that many times the Ni-Cads go uncharged.