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BBQ...and Quality Stainless Jimi 05-31-2006
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Posted by Jimi on May 31, 2006, 10:02 am
Hello,

I am a pipeline welder of 26 years. I really haven't had much to do
with stainless steel in my career. I want to buy a BBQ and have noticed in
the past 3-5 yrs that there are some pretty nice stainless BBQ's out there
for sale by Home Depot, Price Club etc... I also was told to watch what you
buy as some of those pretty "stainless" BBQ's eventually start to rust!
This brings about the question of good and bad quality stainless and
knowing what to look for when buying a stainless BBQ.

Is there a non destructive test to do to check for good quality
stainless? I don't imagine that Home depot would be happy to see me going at
the side of a new bbq with an angle grinder to look at the sparks. I suppose
a magnet would be one way. Any other checks a person could make to guarantee
quality stainless before buying?

Has anyone bought a stainless BBQ that has started to show signs of rust
that would care to comment??


Thanks...Jimi



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Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on May 31, 2006, 10:09 am
> Hello,
>
> I am a pipeline welder of 26 years. I really haven't had much to do
> with stainless steel in my career. I want to buy a BBQ and have noticed
> in
> the past 3-5 yrs that there are some pretty nice stainless BBQ's out there
> for sale by Home Depot, Price Club etc... I also was told to watch what
> you
> buy as some of those pretty "stainless" BBQ's eventually start to rust!
> This brings about the question of good and bad quality stainless and
> knowing what to look for when buying a stainless BBQ.
>
> Is there a non destructive test to do to check for good quality
> stainless? I don't imagine that Home depot would be happy to see me going
> at
> the side of a new bbq with an angle grinder to look at the sparks. I
> suppose
> a magnet would be one way. Any other checks a person could make to
> guarantee
> quality stainless before buying?
>
> Has anyone bought a stainless BBQ that has started to show signs of rust
> that would care to comment??
>
>
> Thanks...Jimi
>
>

The manufacturers' sites might have some info about ratios of various metals
used in their products. I've seen them, and don't really understand them,
but someone else might.



Posted by Steve B on May 31, 2006, 11:00 am

> Hello,
>
> I am a pipeline welder of 26 years. I really haven't had much to do
> with stainless steel in my career. I want to buy a BBQ and have noticed
> in
> the past 3-5 yrs that there are some pretty nice stainless BBQ's out there
> for sale by Home Depot, Price Club etc... I also was told to watch what
> you
> buy as some of those pretty "stainless" BBQ's eventually start to rust!
> This brings about the question of good and bad quality stainless and
> knowing what to look for when buying a stainless BBQ.
>
> Is there a non destructive test to do to check for good quality
> stainless? I don't imagine that Home depot would be happy to see me going
> at
> the side of a new bbq with an angle grinder to look at the sparks. I
> suppose
> a magnet would be one way. Any other checks a person could make to
> guarantee
> quality stainless before buying?
>
> Has anyone bought a stainless BBQ that has started to show signs of rust
> that would care to comment??
>
>
> Thanks...Jimi

I have welded for 33 years now, and worked offshore in the Gulf of Mexico,
and made a couple of hitches in Nigeria. Hey!

The thing about stainless steel to me is the cleaning. I have a Vermont
Castings bbq. It has stainless steel side tables, and a small amount of
stainless steel on the rest of it.

It is a pure D pain to keep looking good. I would never want to own a
stainless steel bbq, as I think it would be a constant effort to keep it
looking good.

I really fell in love with a big stainless steel bbq one time. It was
around $1,000. But, then, I needed a bbq for my vacation rental, and didn't
want to spend that much. So, I went $400 for a Vermont Castings. I really
like this grill, and the experience I have had keeping it looking
presentable showed me that I would have to really work 10x more to keep 10x
more SS looking sharp.

Megallurgically, rust depends on a lot of factors. It can come from the
wrong ingredients in the alloy. It can come from having steel in contact
with SS, and having the steel create a galvanic reaction that rusts the SS.
It can come from low grades of SS, corrosion, food components, all sorts of
things. Nothing lasts forever.

But you may be able to buy one that is guaranteed not to rust. Only problem
is then you have to keep it looking sharp.

Steve



Posted by Michael Daly on May 31, 2006, 11:29 am


> Megallurgically, rust depends on a lot of factors. It can come from the
> wrong ingredients in the alloy. It can come from having steel in contact
> with SS, and having the steel create a galvanic reaction that rusts the SS.
> It can come from low grades of SS, corrosion, food components, all sorts of
> things. Nothing lasts forever.

And high heat levels can accelerate corrosion in stainless steel, especially
in the presence of high humidity, acidity, salt etc. If the BBQ is not kept
very clean (from food spills - especially marinates and sauces with acid and
salt in them) then the heat might accelerate the problem.

However, the same problem exists with any steel BBQ. Once the coatings
on a plain steel BBQ are damaged, rust ensues. I can't help but notice all
the rusty BBQs out for trash pickup every week.

Mike

Posted by C & E on May 31, 2006, 11:01 am

> Hello,
>
> I am a pipeline welder of 26 years. I really haven't had much to do
> with stainless steel in my career. I want to buy a BBQ and have noticed
> in
> the past 3-5 yrs that there are some pretty nice stainless BBQ's out there
> for sale by Home Depot, Price Club etc... I also was told to watch what
> you
> buy as some of those pretty "stainless" BBQ's eventually start to rust!
> This brings about the question of good and bad quality stainless and
> knowing what to look for when buying a stainless BBQ.
>
> Is there a non destructive test to do to check for good quality
> stainless? I don't imagine that Home depot would be happy to see me going
> at
> the side of a new bbq with an angle grinder to look at the sparks. I
> suppose
> a magnet would be one way. Any other checks a person could make to
> guarantee
> quality stainless before buying?
>
> Has anyone bought a stainless BBQ that has started to show signs of rust
> that would care to comment??
>
>
> Thanks...Jimi
>
>
You might check a manufacturer's site and see what they say about care
products. I have some stainless firearms and they will garner the
occassional blem. A gunsmith told me to use chrome polish on them as a
preventative but I'm betting that that is of little use on a grill.



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