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Posted by mm on June 6, 2006, 12:32 am
I was going to post this with questions about it, but after writing
it, it seems only interesting to customers of BGE, namely, you two.
Arthur, you may not be interested in this, but you should know that
the 72% increase they keep talking about is only on the first line of
the bill, so it's really about a 36% increase. (a little less than
that for me last month) They said this, about being only on the first
line of the bill, at the very start of this tsimmis, 2 or 3 months
ago, but haven't said it since. But I'm sure it's true. Why doesn't
the tv news, and maybe the radio and newspaper, do a better job? Why
doesn't BGE point this out again, and again, and again?
Now you guys (on the home repair newsgroup) have me reading my old
electric bills, in Baltimore, Md, and I have one from 11 years ago
next month. It doesn't give as much info as they do now, but it gives
the meter reading -------
the dates June 21 to July 23, 1985
the units used 560
the rate schedule, R
the days used 32
the fuel cost amount included, 8.81, which is not important
and the net amount 46.24
560 is the number of KwH, right?
So 46.24/560 = 8.257 cents per KwH, right? Right.
Isn't that more than I'm paying now, which it says is 4.82 cents/kwh.
Well that number is misleading. It turns out I'm paying 0.156
cents/kwh more now. That's not very much. It's about a 2 percent
increase over 11 years. Why aren't they bragging about that?
Wouldn't it make the July 1st increase more palatable?
It seems to be 6.762 if one adds the per kwh charges together.
But the Delivery Service Customer Charge has been extracted from the
per kwh charge, and is now fixed, so that distorts things, compared to
11 years ago, when everything was proportional to the amount used.
If I take the whole bill,
40.13 and divide by 477 Kwh, I get 8.413
which is just a tiny bit more than 8.257
that I was paying in 1995
Isn't that interesting?
If my bill were greater, the fixed 7.50 charge would be spread over
more KwH, so my charge per KwH would be a little lower yet.
Now if the prices haven't gone up in 11 years, why doesn't BGE brag
about that?
My last month's bill:
Electric Details Non-Summer Rates in Effect
Residential - Schedule R, same as before.
Billing Period: Apr 18, 2006 - May 18, 2006
Days Billed: 30
Meter Read on May 18, Meter #G025460328
Current Previous kWh
Reading Reading Used
16389 15912 477
BGE Electruc Supply 477kWh x .04053000 19.33
BGE Electric Delivery Service
Customer Charge 7.50
Distribution Charge 477kWh x .02634000 12.56
State / Local Taxes & Surcharges:
MD Universal Svc Prog .37
State Surcharge 477kWh x .00013150 .07
Franchise Tax 477kWh x .00062000 .30
Total BGE Electric Amount $40.13
The CTC (Competitive Transition Charge) is $0.0026 per kWh
and is included in the Distribution Charge. [I don't know what this
means, but it is too small to worry about.]
BTW, my meter was changed about a year or two ago, so my usage must be
accurate, since it's the same range over 11 years, and probably much
longer. I have all my bills since 1972, but it would be a challenge
to find them, even the ones in Baltimore, since 1986.
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Posted by on June 6, 2006, 10:17 am
I'm still wondering where the 72% number comes from.
When I look at my bill, I get an existing rate of about .07-.08kwh (I
don't have it in front of me).
When I look at the new rate, isn't it .115 + nusiance fees = .14kwh
(roughly), which is roughly doubling the rate, not 72%. Are you saying
that the .115 rate includes the nusiance fees? If so then it's still a
realtively cheap rate IMO.
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Posted by mm on June 6, 2006, 12:01 pm
On 6 Jun 2006 07:17:54 -0700, scott21230@gmail.com wrote:
>I'm still wondering where the 72% number comes from.
>When I look at my bill, I get an existing rate of about .07-.08kwh (I
>don't have it in front of me).
>
>When I look at the new rate, isn't it .115 + nusiance fees = .14kwh
>(roughly), which is roughly doubling the rate, not 72%.
I haven't seen the new rate. (Mostly in that post, I was just
comparing 11 years ago with last month.) I"m assuming it is 72% on
the first line of the bill, because they said the increase wouldn't
apply to the distribution charge, and the two tax lines that are
calculated from the number of kwh have their own rates, so I don't
think they are being increased, and they are tiny anyhow, 7 cents and
30 cents. Oh, that's what you meant by nuisance fees. I thought you
meant there were going to be new lines on the bill, new fees, as well
as the old one.
> Are you saying
>that the .115 rate includes the nusiance fees?
I don't know anything about .115 . Where did you find that? In the
paper? at bge.com?
On your bill? (People with bill averaging were originally going to
start paying the increase months ago, because their averaging period
extended past June 30.)
> If so then it's still a
>realtively cheap rate IMO.
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Posted by on June 6, 2006, 1:14 pm
> I don't know anything about .115 . Where did you find that? In the
> paper? at bge.com?
The new rate is on your most recent bill. Again, I don't have it in
front of me, but it's close to that.
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Posted by mm on June 6, 2006, 5:09 pm
On 6 Jun 2006 10:14:11 -0700, scott21230@gmail.com wrote:
>> I don't know anything about .115 . Where did you find that? In the
>> paper? at bge.com?
>
>The new rate is on your most recent bill. Again, I don't have it in
>front of me, but it's close to that.
The paper bill is around here somewhere. Their webpage is amazing.
Have you seen it? It gives a window about 4 lines high to look at the
bill! One can scroll up and down. (Another four lines' worth are
unused, except for a link "FAQ" in the middle of the top line!)
So I dl'd the whole bill in pdf just now, and instead of naming the
file BGE-bill-May06.pdf or BGE-bill.pdf, they called it viewSrv .
They're in their own little world. Like I'm going to remember what
that means in a couple months. So I have to go to another program to
change the name.
Maybe we get billed on different days, because what I printed
yesterday is from my last bill, and doesn't have this new rate. My
last billing period ended on May 18. Maybe yours was after that.
Mine says:
Your Price to Compare is 4.82 cents ($.0482) per kWh.
When shopping for electric suppliers, compare this price to those
proposed by other companies. This price reflects the average
annual amount a customer on this schedule pays per
kilowatt-hour for BGE Electric Supply. [the first line of their bill]
4.82 isn't a rate on this bill or the sum of any rates, so it must be
higher than this month's rate because it averages in what they charged
me last summer when rates are higher (or what they plan to charge this
summer. I'm still on the non-summer rate through May 18, so summer
might only be 3 months long.) That's what they mean by "average
annual amount".
Tbey plan to update the billpaying part of their webpage last Sunday,
I think, so you should look at the old one soon before they get rid of
it, to see how bad it is. Used to be worse. You could pay the bill
online but the amount due stayed the same, so if looked like you
hadn't paid at all. They didn't even have text to say that the amount
was the amount of the last bill, not the amount owed. If you weren't
sure if the payment took, there was no way to check (except maybe via
your bank). But after a couple years, they recently fixed that.
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