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Backyard "Platform" Wayne Boatwright 08-29-2008
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Posted by Wayne Boatwright on August 29, 2008, 7:32 pm


Our relatively new yard is in transition and we currently have no patio or
deck. I would like to assemble something semi-permanent that would be easy
to do, as well as easy to disassemble when we upgrade to an outdoor "room".

My idea was to use 2"x6"x12' pressure treated lumber laid flat at intervals
directly on the ground and anchor them to the soil with either rebar or
stakes to prevent movement. These boards would be leveled and with a
slight pitch for any water runoff. Then construct the platform floor
across these boards also using 2"x6"x12' pressure-treated boards, attaching
them with either galvanized or stainless steel screws.

We live in the desert, so there's no concern about ground movement due to
winter heaving or damage from excessive moisture.

This would give us a 12' x 12' platform roughly 4" above the ground, where
we would place our grill and umbrella table and chairs.

Does this sound feasible?

TIA

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Posted by Pete C. on August 29, 2008, 7:36 pm



Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Our relatively new yard is in transition and we currently have no patio or
> deck. I would like to assemble something semi-permanent that would be easy
> to do, as well as easy to disassemble when we upgrade to an outdoor "room".
>
> My idea was to use 2"x6"x12' pressure treated lumber laid flat at intervals
> directly on the ground and anchor them to the soil with either rebar or
> stakes to prevent movement. These boards would be leveled and with a
> slight pitch for any water runoff. Then construct the platform floor
> across these boards also using 2"x6"x12' pressure-treated boards, attaching
> them with either galvanized or stainless steel screws.
>
> We live in the desert, so there's no concern about ground movement due to
> winter heaving or damage from excessive moisture.
>
> This would give us a 12' x 12' platform roughly 4" above the ground, where
> we would place our grill and umbrella table and chairs.
>
> Does this sound feasible?

Feasible, but expensive. I'd go with large square (18"+) concrete pavers
with a minimal layer of sand for leveling. When you're through with them
they can simply be stacked in a corner, or sold on Craigslist or similar
since they will not degrade.

Posted by Wayne Boatwright on August 29, 2008, 7:45 pm


On Fri 29 Aug 2008 04:36:07p, Pete C. told us...

>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> Our relatively new yard is in transition and we currently have no patio
>> or deck. I would like to assemble something semi-permanent that would
>> be easy to do, as well as easy to disassemble when we upgrade to an
>> outdoor "room".
>>
>> My idea was to use 2"x6"x12' pressure treated lumber laid flat at
>> intervals directly on the ground and anchor them to the soil with
>> either rebar or stakes to prevent movement. These boards would be
>> leveled and with a slight pitch for any water runoff. Then construct
>> the platform floor across these boards also using 2"x6"x12'
>> pressure-treated boards, attaching them with either galvanized or
>> stainless steel screws.
>>
>> We live in the desert, so there's no concern about ground movement due
>> to winter heaving or damage from excessive moisture.
>>
>> This would give us a 12' x 12' platform roughly 4" above the ground,
>> where we would place our grill and umbrella table and chairs.
>>
>> Does this sound feasible?
>
> Feasible, but expensive. I'd go with large square (18"+) concrete pavers
> with a minimal layer of sand for leveling. When you're through with them
> they can simply be stacked in a corner, or sold on Craigslist or similar
> since they will not degrade.
>

The pavers are seldom over 2" thick and I really do want about 4" height to
avoid the feeling of "sitting right on the ground". The pavers also absorb
and radiate heat far more than wood, which is a *big* issue in our area
It's not a bad idea, for the very reasons you mentioned, but wouldn't
really give me what I want. I haven't priced anything out yet, so perhaps
that should be my first step.

Thanks for your input, Pete.

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Wayne Boatwright

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Posted by Pete C. on August 29, 2008, 10:21 pm



Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Fri 29 Aug 2008 04:36:07p, Pete C. told us...
>
> >
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>
> >> Our relatively new yard is in transition and we currently have no patio
> >> or deck. I would like to assemble something semi-permanent that would
> >> be easy to do, as well as easy to disassemble when we upgrade to an
> >> outdoor "room".
> >>
> >> My idea was to use 2"x6"x12' pressure treated lumber laid flat at
> >> intervals directly on the ground and anchor them to the soil with
> >> either rebar or stakes to prevent movement. These boards would be
> >> leveled and with a slight pitch for any water runoff. Then construct
> >> the platform floor across these boards also using 2"x6"x12'
> >> pressure-treated boards, attaching them with either galvanized or
> >> stainless steel screws.
> >>
> >> We live in the desert, so there's no concern about ground movement due
> >> to winter heaving or damage from excessive moisture.
> >>
> >> This would give us a 12' x 12' platform roughly 4" above the ground,
> >> where we would place our grill and umbrella table and chairs.
> >>
> >> Does this sound feasible?
> >
> > Feasible, but expensive. I'd go with large square (18"+) concrete pavers
> > with a minimal layer of sand for leveling. When you're through with them
> > they can simply be stacked in a corner, or sold on Craigslist or similar
> > since they will not degrade.
> >
>
> The pavers are seldom over 2" thick and I really do want about 4" height to
> avoid the feeling of "sitting right on the ground". The pavers also absorb
> and radiate heat far more than wood, which is a *big* issue in our area
> It's not a bad idea, for the very reasons you mentioned, but wouldn't
> really give me what I want. I haven't priced anything out yet, so perhaps
> that should be my first step.
>
> Thanks for your input, Pete.

Having spent some time barefoot on a raised wooden deck (grayed PT) as
well as normal gray-white concrete in Houston recently when it was 110
out, I can assure you there isn't much difference in heat absorption and
radiation.

If you want the height, Lay a perimeter ring of the pavers, then fill
inside with the leveling sand tamped and leveled, and then place the
top layer. You get your 4" height, using only a few more pavers and a
little more sand.

Posted by Wayne Boatwright on August 29, 2008, 11:07 pm


On Fri 29 Aug 2008 07:21:23p, Pete C. told us...

>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Fri 29 Aug 2008 04:36:07p, Pete C. told us...
>>
>> >
>> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Our relatively new yard is in transition and we currently have no
>> >> patio or deck. I would like to assemble something semi-permanent
>> >> that would be easy to do, as well as easy to disassemble when we
>> >> upgrade to an outdoor "room".
>> >>
>> >> My idea was to use 2"x6"x12' pressure treated lumber laid flat at
>> >> intervals directly on the ground and anchor them to the soil with
>> >> either rebar or stakes to prevent movement. These boards would be
>> >> leveled and with a slight pitch for any water runoff. Then
>> >> construct the platform floor across these boards also using
>> >> 2"x6"x12' pressure-treated boards, attaching them with either
>> >> galvanized or stainless steel screws.
>> >>
>> >> We live in the desert, so there's no concern about ground movement
>> >> due to winter heaving or damage from excessive moisture.
>> >>
>> >> This would give us a 12' x 12' platform roughly 4" above the ground,
>> >> where we would place our grill and umbrella table and chairs.
>> >>
>> >> Does this sound feasible?
>> >
>> > Feasible, but expensive. I'd go with large square (18"+) concrete
>> > pavers with a minimal layer of sand for leveling. When you're through
>> > with them they can simply be stacked in a corner, or sold on
>> > Craigslist or similar since they will not degrade.
>> >
>>
>> The pavers are seldom over 2" thick and I really do want about 4"
>> height to avoid the feeling of "sitting right on the ground". The
>> pavers also absorb and radiate heat far more than wood, which is a
>> *big* issue in our area It's not a bad idea, for the very reasons you
>> mentioned, but wouldn't really give me what I want. I haven't priced
>> anything out yet, so perhaps that should be my first step.
>>
>> Thanks for your input, Pete.
>
> Having spent some time barefoot on a raised wooden deck (grayed PT) as
> well as normal gray-white concrete in Houston recently when it was 110
> out, I can assure you there isn't much difference in heat absorption and
> radiation.
>
> If you want the height, Lay a perimeter ring of the pavers, then fill
> inside with the leveling sand tamped and leveled, and then place the
> top layer. You get your 4" height, using only a few more pavers and a
> little more sand.
>

I'll be sure to give this some more thought before making a decision.
Thanks!

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Wayne Boatwright

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Date: Friday, 08(VIII)/29(XXIX)/08(MMVIII)
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