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Ball Park Estimate Schmooseme 04-01-2008
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Posted by Schmooseme on April 1, 2008, 3:47 pm

Could anybody give me a ball park on the cost of a Payne PF4M Fan
Coil? the unit cost and installation cost. My ripoff home warrenty
co. wants to give me only 600.00 for both. I can't even get anyone to
look at the Payne unit. I call HAVC companies and they tell me, are
not interested in working on a Payne. Can you belive it!

RSC

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 1, 2008, 10:20 pm

>
> Could anybody give me a ball park on the cost of a Payne PF4M Fan
> Coil? the unit cost and installation cost. My ripoff home warrenty
> co. wants to give me only 600.00 for both. I can't even get anyone to
> look at the Payne unit. I call HAVC companies and they tell me, are
> not interested in working on a Payne. Can you belive it!
>
> RSC

If no one wants to work on the unit, the cost is immaterial. Two lessons
here. It is time to replace the Payne and it is time to drop the home
warranty. They are a rip off. Put the premium money in the bank instead.
I'd guess the $600 is on the low side though.



Posted by Schmooseme on April 3, 2008, 11:50 am
Yes....

I did drop the HW company. I did find out that the Payne comapny will
sell the unit directly to me for about 850.

They do not require you to be a contractor or HVAC dealer. I would
just need someone to install it. Some Joe I guess. That just tells
you what kind of unit the Payne is.............. If I knew how to use
a vaccum I'd do it myself. I have to remove the R22 and put in the
new R144 (I think it's called)..... I better let someone from Joes
Garage do it. :-)

I've bee fighting this for a year now, check this out for a laugh:
http://www.schmooseme.net/payne-in-the-ear.htm



RSC

Posted by Bubba on April 3, 2008, 10:27 pm
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT), Schmooseme

> Yes....
>
>I did drop the HW company. I did find out that the Payne comapny will
>sell the unit directly to me for about 850.
>
>They do not require you to be a contractor or HVAC dealer. I would
>just need someone to install it. Some Joe I guess. That just tells
>you what kind of unit the Payne is.............. If I knew how to use
>a vaccum I'd do it myself. I have to remove the R22 and put in the
>new R144 (I think it's called)..... I better let someone from Joes
>Garage do it. :-)
>
>I've bee fighting this for a year now, check this out for a laugh:
>http://www.schmooseme.net/payne-in-the-ear.htm
>
>
>
>RSC

You're right. It is a laugh..................YOU Im speaking of,
Schmooseme. I read your whole story and it was very funny. I cant
believe that you think YOU can install a new unit and it will all be
fine. You would think you would have learned by now but it appears
not. Blame it on Payne. Blame it on the engineers. Blame it on whoever
you want but what it really boils down to is you being a tight ass and
not getting it fixed right. The guys that wont come out to repair it
because of the "gross mis-match" should have given you a clue. They've
seen it before. So have I. If you mis-match a heat pump system you get
exactly what you got. A mis-matched noisy piece of shit that wont work
as it should. Payne may be toward the lower end of the scale but a
properly selected and properly installed Payne heat pump will run
quietly and efficiently for a long time. You get what you pay for and
thats about the best advice you'll get.
Bubba

Posted by Schmooseme on April 8, 2008, 4:37 pm


You got it all wrong. If a guy would come out and say "This is not
right, you should have this", then give me a quote, that would be
great. What I get is "We can't even help you." What kind of service
is that? The tight ass is the warrenty company that gave me the mis-
match. Now, after I go to the BBB, they are offering to pay a
fraction of the cost to replace the evaporator. I got the money for
the complete install, but nobody wants to come out and fix it.

I called a my local HVAC company and they said they could not get the
Fan/Coil unit becuase thier not a Payne dealer. I then called Payne
and they said, we can sell it directly to you, where should we ship
it? Now, who's job am I doing here? I have to do all the research
and ask people on the internet, the only step I'm freakin missing is
installing the damd thing ! So you see how I feel that I could
install this thing and know that it's done right. And laugh all you
want, I can install the unit and it would be just fine. It's not
exactly brain surgery.

RSC

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