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Posted by Eric in North TX on November 17, 2006, 7:55 pm
OK let's say it is an real energy hog (which I doubt) and using $40 a
month of electricity. Now you say I can get one that is 75% more
efficient or $10 a month. At $30 per month the newest model of the
Monograms is roughly $7k retail, it would take 19 years to save any
money. Since I never pay retail, lets say $5,500 / $30 per month now we
are down to 15 years before I save a dime. This assumes that I'm
entitled to a 26 cu. ft. top of the line, built in refrigerator. So
lets say I slum a little and go to a 19 cu. ft. and can get it down to
$2,000. Now in 5 and a half years, I begin to save $30 a month and have
a lesser machine than I started out with, and when it is done it is off
to the land fill or recycle if they still take them, no rebuilding one
of those. From an ecology stand point I'm actually more enlightened
than are you, the 3 R's are; Reduce, Reuse, And the very last resort;
Recycle.
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Posted by m Ransley on November 18, 2006, 9:02 am
Id first get a Kill-a-Watt and check its consumption-efficiency, it
will record KWH used over 100hrs to give you a log, other units can log
data to your computer for longer tests. If your unit is recessed what I
did was enclose the recess in 3" of R7.2" foamboard on 4 sides, Feel
your fridge, its cold on the outside, the insulation value on old models
is very low, on new units it is better but not optimal as size of the
unit would be excessive, look at Sun Frost, they use apx 6" of foam to
achieve their high ratings which I have matched with a Sears. If you
have the room for any insulation in your enclosure you can dramatically
improve efficiency. That how I got mine to 4.3- 5$ a month to operate. A
new top line recessed unit with added insulation I think could do as
well from my viewing the Yellow Energy Tags consumption rating.
With utility trends electric costs could be 40-80% higher in 5 years,
this month I go up 15%. The life of a fridge is 10-25 years so plan for
the future. You might save at .12 kwh 250 a year, at todays costs, it
will be higher every year as electric costs increase. Only you can run
tests to see what you could save. Many recessed units are superior in
design, but don`t forget there are allot more things to wear out than
just the compressor, everything has a design life, next year it could be
the condenser coil leaking and be un repairable, etc, etc. If it was an
antique Mercedes it would obviously be worth restoring since values go
up every year. Only you can run numbers, but you likely have the option
to insulate the enclosure to make it more efficient.
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Posted by Eric in North TX on November 18, 2006, 9:31 am
I'll consider all that. Anything I can do to reduce bills, without
laying out money that wouldn't be recovered in the likely lifespan of a
given unit is fair game. Actually the Monogram is warm to the touch on
the outside, that has always been a bit of a head scratcher for me. As
to future repairs, since the works are segregated to a very accessible
compartment on top, I can't see even a leaky coil as a major problem.
It is a model of simplicity, like a 50's Chevy.
Next I suppose you'll be wanting me to upgrade my '79 F-350 to one of
those new-fangled fuel-injected ones to save a few gallons of fuel.
Let's see $40,000 divided by..............
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on November 20, 2006, 3:53 pm
Who decides if you're entitled?
You never heard of melting down scrap steel to make other steel items?
Do you live in Soviet Union, comrade?
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
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OK let's say it is an real energy hog (which I doubt) and using $40 a
month of electricity. Now you say I can get one that is 75% more
efficient or $10 a month. At $30 per month the newest model of the
Monograms is roughly $7k retail, it would take 19 years to save any
money. Since I never pay retail, lets say $5,500 / $30 per month now
we
are down to 15 years before I save a dime. This assumes that I'm
entitled to a 26 cu. ft. top of the line, built in refrigerator. So
lets say I slum a little and go to a 19 cu. ft. and can get it down to
$2,000. Now in 5 and a half years, I begin to save $30 a month and
have
a lesser machine than I started out with, and when it is done it is
off
to the land fill or recycle if they still take them, no rebuilding one
of those. From an ecology stand point I'm actually more enlightened
than are you, the 3 R's are; Reduce, Reuse, And the very last resort;
Recycle.
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Posted by Steve B on November 17, 2006, 1:59 pm
>
>>It the thing's so good why are you having problems so soon
>> with it?
>>
>> Steve
>
> I can't speak for the original poster but mine is well over 10 years
> old and has had only minor repairs = 2 timers (and defrost thermostats
> that it probably didn't really need, I just changed out all controls
> except the thermostat, which is working fine). I'd gladly toss mine a
> compressor. I'd forgotten just how expensive it was until the timer
> quit a couple of months ago, I thought of just replacing it. I went
> shopping and found what I could get for $2k was crap compared to what I
> had. $35 later it is purring like a kitten.
>
> http://www.us-appliance.com/noname35.html
>
Maybe I'm still smarting from my oven. It quit, and a guy charged me $80 to
come and tell me it needed fixing. The fixing would cost $300. He said it
needed a couple of fuses. I have a friend coming today who is competent in
a lot of areas. We are going to pull the oven and see if it is just a
couple of fuses that they want $300 for or not.
It is difficult these days to get a guy to show up, do the work, and not
work you over. Seems like a competent honest guy would have all kinds of
work. But I guess he wouldn't make double what the ones do who are
dishonest.
Steve
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