Ball park cost for breaker box replacement

Are you hiring them as employees? Do you plan on covering their
workmen's comp, and employer side SSI contribution? These are
retorical questions, I'm trying to explain you are paying for a job,
not for new employees so do your job as a consumer and get specs and
estimates.

Now for the price, I have to say that is 'ball park' for a differcult
job. Depending on permit requirements, inspections, licensing
requirements, materials and the distance from weather head to the
panel, $2500 could be very fair.

So get three estimates, proof of insurance (GL and if there are
employees, workman's comp), follow up with insurance phone call to see
if policy is current, get detailed specs, and get some patience. You
are getting something installed that if done right, should outlast
your home. :)

Now back to your post, what is a 'failing circuit breaker box'?

Disclaimer: Not your electrician, most likely not licensed in your
area, so this isn't a how-to, but a friendly suggestion on how as a
home owner I would proceed.

later,

tom

Posted by bowgus on September 16, 2006, 3:33 pm

Eigenvector wrote:

> I'm calling around for some sort of quotes to replace my failing circuit

> breaker box and so far I've only received one estimate.

200 Amp panel, $600 cdn ... with breakers.

Posted by Tom Horne, Electrician on September 16, 2006, 3:35 pm

Eigenvector wrote:

> I'm calling around for some sort of quotes to replace my failing circuit

> breaker box and so far I've only received one estimate.

> The price they quoted was about $2500 bucks roughly or $91/hour for their

> work - including permit and inspection. No other electricians want to

> release their hourly rate nor provide estimates. I'm not bitter about it,

> just interested in how much money I'll have to secure to do this.

> So if you had to guess, what would it cost to replace a non-grounded circuit

> breaker with a grounded circuit breaker IF I SUPPLIED THE BREAKERS AND THE

> PANEL.

It is obvious from the tone of your inquiry that you believe you are
entitled to have an electrical contractor do the job at his/her labor
cost alone. That means he/she is supposed to absorb all of the overhead
cost of supplying the labor to do your job. Any business that accedes
to such demands will fail. Are you aware that people invest in a
business in the expectation that they will make a profit?

No qualified person is going to want to work with parts he/she did not
obtain themselves.

If the difference between the price "to the trade" and the retail price
is part of the contractors margin and you get them to forgo it he/she
has to make it up somewhere else. If it is not part of that particular
firms margin you will be raising the cost of your job.

Far more importantly neither I or any other electrician I've ever heard
of will be willing to warranty parts for which I/we do not hold the
purchase receipt. I would not be willing to warranty parts that may
have come from a salvage dealer or a retailer that is going out of
business even if the parts are in sealed boxes. I know the supply
houses I deal with will take back defective parts no questions asked. I
know they will not sell me used parts the installation of which is a
code violation in some jurisdictions.

That having been said the cost of a service equipment upgrade for a
single family residence varies from $1000 in rural West Virginia up to
$3000 for an underground service in Washington, DC. Quit trying to pick
apart the contractors price and get three estimates. Check the
histories and references of the contractors and select the bid in which
you then have the most confidence.
--
Tom Horne

"This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous
for general use." Thomas Alva Edison

Posted by grappletech on September 16, 2006, 5:32 pm

> It is obvious from the tone of your inquiry that you believe you are

> entitled to have an electrical contractor do the job at his/her labor

> cost alone.

Yeah, there's a lot of overhead -- taxes, FICA, Social Security, Workman's
Comp, medical/retirement benefits for employees, truck or van cost (plus
gas), tools, materials (including the fuse box itself), training,
advertising, permits, might be a small office staff to pay
(receptionist/bookkeeper), etc..

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Posted by HeyBub on September 16, 2006, 10:51 pm

Tom Horne, Electrician wrote:

> It is obvious from the tone of your inquiry that you believe you are

> entitled to have an electrical contractor do the job at his/her labor

> cost alone. That means he/she is supposed to absorb all of the

> overhead cost of supplying the labor to do your job. Any business

> that accedes to such demands will fail. Are you aware that people invest

> in a

> business in the expectation that they will make a profit?

Two years ago I had a Chevrolet dealership repair the AC in my pickup. *I*
provided the parts, THEY provided the labor. I saved about $400 on the price
of the compressor alone.

Of course at an auto dealership, the service department profit bucket is not
connected to the parts department profit bucket. Evidently, there is only
one bucket at an electrical contractor - but that is not true of all
businesses.

And, oh, yeah. Two hot seasons on, everything continues to work swell.

> No qualified person is going to want to work with parts he/she did not

> obtain themselves.

Not always. See above.

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