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Basement Finishing - Framing Ledge michael.middleton 11-05-2007
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Posted by on November 5, 2007, 2:09 pm
Am finishing my basement - have had it water-proofed, put a vapor
barrier on the walls, will insulate, etc. The problem I'm running
into is in the framing.

I have a ledge that runs around most of my basement (knee-wall/frost
wall??). It's 3 feet up and 23" wide.

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How do I frame this? Some ideas I've had involve a single top/bottom
plate with the 2X's cut at 45-degree angles - or joined at 90-degree
angles. I really don't want to have two top/bottom plates unless I
absolutely have to.


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Posted by DonC on November 5, 2007, 2:55 pm

> Am finishing my basement - have had it water-proofed, put a vapor
> barrier on the walls, will insulate, etc. The problem I'm running
> into is in the framing.
>
> I have a ledge that runs around most of my basement (knee-wall/frost
> wall??). It's 3 feet up and 23" wide.
>
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> ____|
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> |
> |
>
> How do I frame this? Some ideas I've had involve a single top/bottom
> plate with the 2X's cut at 45-degree angles - or joined at 90-degree
> angles. I really don't want to have two top/bottom plates unless I
> absolutely have to.

Is this an old house with the basement added? In Michigan it's called a
"Michigan Basement." The footings are below the outer wall down 3 or 5
feet below grade depending how far north you are.



Posted by on November 5, 2007, 4:08 pm
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>
>
>
> > Am finishing my basement - have had it water-proofed, put a vapor
> > barrier on the walls, will insulate, etc. The problem I'm running
> > into is in the framing.
>
> > I have a ledge that runs around most of my basement (knee-wall/frost
> > wall??). It's 3 feet up and 23" wide.
>
> > |
> > ____|
> > |
> > |
> > |
>
> > How do I frame this? Some ideas I've had involve a single top/bottom
> > plate with the 2X's cut at 45-degree angles - or joined at 90-degree
> > angles. I really don't want to have two top/bottom plates unless I
> > absolutely have to.
>
> Is this an old house with the basement added? In Michigan it's called a
> "Michigan Basement." The footings are below the outer wall down 3 or 5
> feet below grade depending how far north you are.

Yeah, exactly. Maryland though.


Posted by DonC on November 5, 2007, 4:52 pm

>> > Am finishing my basement - have had it water-proofed, put a vapor
>> > barrier on the walls, will insulate, etc. The problem I'm running
>> > into is in the framing.
>>
>> > I have a ledge that runs around most of my basement (knee-wall/frost
>> > wall??). It's 3 feet up and 23" wide.
>>
>> > |
>> > ____|
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>>
>> > How do I frame this? Some ideas I've had involve a single top/bottom
>> > plate with the 2X's cut at 45-degree angles - or joined at 90-degree
>> > angles. I really don't want to have two top/bottom plates unless I
>> > absolutely have to.
>>
>> Is this an old house with the basement added? In Michigan it's called a
>> "Michigan Basement." The footings are below the outer wall down 3 or 5
>> feet below grade depending how far north you are.
>
> Yeah, exactly. Maryland though.

I'd use a 2x6 as the bottom plate of the upper wall and construct the lower
wall so that its top plate is level with the top of the 2x6. Then run 3/4" x
24" plywood between the walls as a shelf. It will give you storage
space --- maybe too much storage space : )

I can't envision how a 45 degree wall could be made to look attractive but
I'm not really good at envisioning : (





Posted by on November 5, 2007, 5:12 pm
> >> > Am finishing my basement - have had it water-proofed, put a vapor
> >> > barrier on the walls, will insulate, etc. The problem I'm running
> >> > into is in the framing.
>
> >> > I have a ledge that runs around most of my basement (knee-wall/frost
> >> > wall??). It's 3 feet up and 23" wide.
>
> >> > |
> >> > ____|
> >> > |
> >> > |
> >> > |
>
> >> > How do I frame this? Some ideas I've had involve a single top/bottom
> >> > plate with the 2X's cut at 45-degree angles - or joined at 90-degree
> >> > angles. I really don't want to have two top/bottom plates unless I
> >> > absolutely have to.
>
> >> Is this an old house with the basement added? In Michigan it's called a
> >> "Michigan Basement." The footings are below the outer wall down 3 or 5
> >> feet below grade depending how far north you are.
>
> > Yeah, exactly. Maryland though.
>
> I'd use a 2x6 as the bottom plate of the upper wall and construct the lower
> wall so that its top plate is level with the top of the 2x6. Then run 3/4" x
> 24" plywood between the walls as a shelf. It will give you storage
> space --- maybe too much storage space : )
>
> I can't envision how a 45 degree wall could be made to look attractive but
> I'm not really good at envisioning : (

I was hoping to do sheetrock - kind of make it look like I meant it to
be there. And by that I mean joining the 2X4's together. So the one
coming down from the wall would be cut at a 45 degree angle to meet
the one running horizontal, etc. etc. Sort of like:

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