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Basement toilet flush problems Never Enough Money 07-03-2006
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Posted by Never Enough Money on July 3, 2006, 10:41 am
Bought a house with a water efficient toilet for my basement. However,
it has a very hard time flushing - anything of substance just won't go
down without multiple flushes.

Is this because the super efficient toilet sacrifices flush power? Is
it becausse the basement is so low that there's not enough drop out to
the sewage line? Is it because the line is partially clogged? Something
else?

Should I go out and buy a better toilet? Clean the line with a snake?
What?


Posted by Tony Hwang on July 3, 2006, 11:04 am
Never Enough Money wrote:
> Bought a house with a water efficient toilet for my basement. However,
> it has a very hard time flushing - anything of substance just won't go
> down without multiple flushes.
>
> Is this because the super efficient toilet sacrifices flush power? Is
> it becausse the basement is so low that there's not enough drop out to
> the sewage line? Is it because the line is partially clogged? Something
> else?
>
> Should I go out and buy a better toilet? Clean the line with a snake?
> What?
>
Hi,
Some models work better than others. Using lot less water doing the same
job, some does not work well. I heard Toto brand is pretty good choice.
(which I installed and city water works gave 75.00 rebate for each I
replaced).

Posted by Speedy Jim on July 3, 2006, 11:59 am
Never Enough Money wrote:
> Bought a house with a water efficient toilet for my basement. However,
> it has a very hard time flushing - anything of substance just won't go
> down without multiple flushes.
>
> Is this because the super efficient toilet sacrifices flush power? Is
> it becausse the basement is so low that there's not enough drop out to
> the sewage line? Is it because the line is partially clogged? Something
> else?
>
> Should I go out and buy a better toilet? Clean the line with a snake?
> What?
>

Test the line.
Get several large buckets filled with water.
Rapidly dump them into the bowl .
If the water goes right down without signs
of overflow, the line is fine and the toilet
is suspect.


Jim

Posted by mm on July 3, 2006, 2:15 pm

>Never Enough Money wrote:
>> Bought a house with a water efficient toilet for my basement. However,

For the basement, not IN the basement. Was it already there?

>> it has a very hard time flushing - anything of substance just won't go
>> down without multiple flushes.

I wonder how hard it is these days to get previous owners to tell the
truth about how well it worked when they were there. Maybe they only
used it for peeing, or maybe it worked well when they were there and
something has changed. I guess if you wait 6 months, so they won't
have to worry about being sued for non-disclosure, they may not fear
to tell you the truth.

As an aside, did you flush the toilet before buying the house. I
didn't flush mine either, but none is in the basement. I don't know
how much difference that makes.

More below:

>> Is this because the super efficient toilet sacrifices flush power? Is
>> it becausse the basement is so low that there's not enough drop out to
>> the sewage line? Is it because the line is partially clogged? Something
>> else?
>>
>> Should I go out and buy a better toilet? Clean the line with a snake?
>> What?
>>
>
>Test the line.
>Get several large buckets filled with water.
>Rapidly dump them into the bowl .
>If the water goes right down without signs
>of overflow, the line is fine and the toilet
>is suspect.

Is this a test of the drain or of flushing?

In other tests, other people have recommended only one bucket. If
low-use is 1.6 isn't regular use 3 gallons, and isn't a standard
bucket about 5 gallons? So is it a valid flushing comparison to use
more than one bucket?
>
>Jim


Posted by Never Enough Money on July 3, 2006, 10:57 pm
Soory, I worded it porly. Yes it is IN the basement. It's a basement
with a wood sub-floor, not a concrete slab. I treid the bucket
experiment recommended by one of the other replies and sure enough it
barely drained out even after the first bucket.

I thought we tested it when we bought the house. It sat down in the
basement hardly used at all till one of my kids wanted to move down
there....maybe he clogged it somehow....


mm wrote:
>
> >Never Enough Money wrote:
> >> Bought a house with a water efficient toilet for my basement. However,
>
> For the basement, not IN the basement. Was it already there?
>
> >> it has a very hard time flushing - anything of substance just won't go
> >> down without multiple flushes.
>
> I wonder how hard it is these days to get previous owners to tell the
> truth about how well it worked when they were there. Maybe they only
> used it for peeing, or maybe it worked well when they were there and
> something has changed. I guess if you wait 6 months, so they won't
> have to worry about being sued for non-disclosure, they may not fear
> to tell you the truth.
>
> As an aside, did you flush the toilet before buying the house. I
> didn't flush mine either, but none is in the basement. I don't know
> how much difference that makes.
>
> More below:
>
> >> Is this because the super efficient toilet sacrifices flush power? Is
> >> it becausse the basement is so low that there's not enough drop out to
> >> the sewage line? Is it because the line is partially clogged? Something
> >> else?
> >>
> >> Should I go out and buy a better toilet? Clean the line with a snake?
> >> What?
> >>
> >
> >Test the line.
> >Get several large buckets filled with water.
> >Rapidly dump them into the bowl .
> >If the water goes right down without signs
> >of overflow, the line is fine and the toilet
> >is suspect.
>
> Is this a test of the drain or of flushing?
>
> In other tests, other people have recommended only one bucket. If
> low-use is 1.6 isn't regular use 3 gallons, and isn't a standard
> bucket about 5 gallons? So is it a valid flushing comparison to use
> more than one bucket?
> >
> >Jim


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