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Battery back up sump pump question Steve 04-27-2008
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Posted by Steve on April 27, 2008, 12:35 pm
Hello, I have a Wayne battery back up sump pump model ESP15 and it
eats up a brand new deep cycle marine battery about every 1 - 2 years
whether it gets used or not. I think it is because the AC charger is
always plugged in and over time will "cook" the battery to death. Has
anyone else had this experience with this pump? What type of battery
is best to use in this location? Would one of the new "dry" cell
batteries work better? Would it be better to charge the battery to
full condition and then unplug the charger and check for charge
condition every week or so and charge as needed? Thanks for any
suggestions!
Steve

Posted by dpb on April 27, 2008, 12:49 pm
Steve wrote:
> Hello, I have a Wayne battery back up sump pump model ESP15 and it
> eats up a brand new deep cycle marine battery about every 1 - 2 years
> whether it gets used or not. I think it is because the AC charger is
> always plugged in and over time will "cook" the battery to death. Has
> anyone else had this experience with this pump? What type of battery
> is best to use in this location? Would one of the new "dry" cell
> batteries work better? Would it be better to charge the battery to
> full condition and then unplug the charger and check for charge
> condition every week or so and charge as needed? Thanks for any
> suggestions!

A couple, many others or variations of the above are possible.

Ideally, get a charger that is sensitive to battery state so doesn't
charge except when required.

Alternatively, your solution helps albeit w/ some "bother factor". A
timer could reduce that some.

I'd also recommend using the pump on some periodic frequency both as a
test of the pump's availability if/when required and the cycling of the
battery will help its condition as well.

Alternatively, consider the venturi-style water-driven backup if it's an
emergency-only situation and could ditch the battery altogether.

--

Posted by Rich on April 27, 2008, 12:52 pm

> Hello, I have a Wayne battery back up sump pump model ESP15 and it
> eats up a brand new deep cycle marine battery about every 1 - 2 years
> whether it gets used or not. I think it is because the AC charger is
> always plugged in and over time will "cook" the battery to death. Has
> anyone else had this experience with this pump? What type of battery
> is best to use in this location? Would one of the new "dry" cell
> batteries work better? Would it be better to charge the battery to
> full condition and then unplug the charger and check for charge
> condition every week or so and charge as needed? Thanks for any
> suggestions!
> Steve



If you are on city water look into a pump from Zoellar <sp> it runs off of
city water and pumps one gallon for every gallon it uses from the city. No
moving parts and just sits there waiting to be used. Saved my butt two
times. It's basicly a foot valve from a water system with reverse sensing
(turns on when water is high enough to float it's weighted float).

Rich



Posted by Steve on April 27, 2008, 1:08 pm
>
>
> > Hello, =A0I have a Wayne battery back up sump pump model ESP15 and it
> > eats up a brand new deep cycle marine battery about every 1 - 2 years
> > whether it gets used or not. =A0I think it is because the AC charger is
> > always plugged in and over time will "cook" the battery to death. =A0Has=

> > anyone else had this experience with this pump? =A0What type of battery
> > is best to use in this location? =A0Would one of the new "dry" cell
> > batteries work better? =A0Would it be better to charge the battery to
> > full condition and then unplug the charger and check for charge
> > condition every week or so and charge as needed? =A0Thanks for any
> > suggestions!
> > Steve
>
> If you are on city water look into a pump from Zoellar <sp> it runs off of=

> city water and pumps one gallon for every gallon it uses from the city. No=

> moving parts and just sits there waiting to be used. Saved my butt two
> times. It's basicly a foot valve from a water system with reverse sensing
> (turns on when water is high enough to float it's weighted float).
>
> Rich

I am on a well system so not sure if that would help me or not??
However, I will look up info on that pump. This must be what "dpb"
suggests also?

I may have caused myself some of the problem as I have not been
'testing" the pump as much as I should have been and thus not
discharging the battery every so often. I am planning to buy my 3rd
battery in about 5 - 6 years so just wondering if I should get a
really good one with lots of reserve time (200 minutes) or a middle of
the road battery (140 - 160 minutes)?? I will put on the calander
each month a day that will be to run down the battery. I have always
used the plug in low voltage charger that came with the pump. Maybe
there is something better??
Thanks!

Steve

Posted by Worn Out Retread on April 29, 2008, 10:34 am


>>
>>
>> > Hello, I have a Wayne battery back up sump pump model ESP15 and it
>> > eats up a brand new deep cycle marine battery about every 1 - 2 years
>> > whether it gets used or not. I think it is because the AC charger is
>> > always plugged in and over time will "cook" the battery to death. Has
>> > anyone else had this experience with this pump? What type of battery
>> > is best to use in this location? Would one of the new "dry" cell
>> > batteries work better? Would it be better to charge the battery to
>> > full condition and then unplug the charger and check for charge
>> > condition every week or so and charge as needed? Thanks for any
>> > suggestions!
>> > Steve
>>
>> If you are on city water look into a pump from Zoellar <sp> it runs off
>> of
>> city water and pumps one gallon for every gallon it uses from the city.
>> No
>> moving parts and just sits there waiting to be used. Saved my butt two
>> times. It's basicly a foot valve from a water system with reverse sensing
>> (turns on when water is high enough to float it's weighted float).
>>
>> Rich
>
> I am on a well system so not sure if that would help me or not??
> However, I will look up info on that pump. This must be what "dpb"
> suggests also?
>
> I may have caused myself some of the problem as I have not been
> 'testing" the pump as much as I should have been and thus not
> discharging the battery every so often. I am planning to buy my 3rd
> battery in about 5 - 6 years so just wondering if I should get a
> really good one with lots of reserve time (200 minutes) or a middle of
> the road battery (140 - 160 minutes)?? I will put on the calander
> each month a day that will be to run down the battery. I have always
> used the plug in low voltage charger that came with the pump. Maybe
> there is something better??
> Thanks!
>
> Steve

Look for a charging system that shuts itself off untill a predetermined
voltage is reached before recharging. There are also charging systems that
will "cycle" the battery down to a low voltage on a regular basis to
exercise the battery a bit.

--
Ron P

If we are what we eat then: I'm fast,
cheap and easy





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