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Beware Allstate Frank 04-16-2008
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Posted by on April 19, 2008, 8:31 pm
There are many different forms of homeowners insurance, and many
different ways of covering roofs. The simplest for the homeowner is
also the most expensive -- cover all roof repairs at replacement cost.

But some policies cover only the depreciated value of the old roof, even
on a policy that otherwise pays replacement cost for home repairs. The
company doesn't want to pay for routine re-roofing as an insurance
claim.

Some policies pay only to repair or replace to original condition, and
either limit or exclude the cost of complying with stricter codes.
(That's not limited to roofs, it applies to any repair to the home, e.g.
if you have a small fire in the kitchen but the city makes you upgrade
the wiring as a condition of the repair permit, you could be on the hook
for the cost of the upgrades.)

I would strongly suggest the OP read his policy carefully to see what it
covers on his roof, what it excludes, what valuation methods it uses,
etc. If it isn't clear, an initial consultation with an attorney is
often free and well worth the price ;-)

--
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Posted by Joseph Meehan on April 16, 2008, 11:48 am
I suggest contacting your state insurance oversight authority and see
what they say. Keep in mind your roof is at or close to the end of its
useful life (15 years?) You also may want to contact your local agent.

How long have you been insured with Allstate? Was your roof the only
one in the area damaged?

Have you looked carefully at the coverage document to see if what they
are saying is not consistent with what you find there?

> Beware Allstate. My house was built in 1993 and met all building
> codes at that time. Now I have wind damage and they will not cover
> damage because the roof is not up to current code. We are simply
> talking about the nailing strip on a single and its relationship with
> the glue strip. I've had several roofers tell me that this is the way
> roofs were put on at the time and the code has changed since. If this
> is allowed then I'm not sure it pays to have insurance. I'm putting on
> a new roof out of my pocket and leaving Allstate and will never return.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




Posted by on April 17, 2008, 7:39 am
wrote:
> =A0 =A0 I suggest contacting your state insurance oversight authority and =
see
> what they say. =A0 Keep in mind your roof is at or close to the end of its=

> useful life (15 years?) =A0 You also may want to contact your local agent.=

>
> =A0 =A0 How long have you been insured with Allstate? =A0 Was your roof th=
e only
> one in the area damaged?
>
> =A0 =A0 Have you looked carefully at the coverage document to see if what =
they
> are saying is not consistent with what you find there?


I agree. I'd examine the policy and see exactly what it says. It
would seem very unusual for there to be exclusions for something not
up to current code. That would mean the instant the code changed, you
would no longer have coverage. And who could expect a homeowner to
even know what the current code is?

But also key is the overall condition of the roof at 15 years, how
high the wind was, were other homes damaged, etc. We also don't know
how extensive the damage is. Unless it's extensive, the insurance
company is probably only responsible to repair the damaged sections.

If the policy doesn't have any exclusion and the facts support your
case, next steps are state regulatory agency and then possibly small
claims court.






>
>
> > Beware Allstate. =A0My house was built in 1993 and met all building
> > codes at that time. =A0Now I have wind damage and they will not cover
> > damage because the roof is not up to current code. =A0We are simply
> > talking about the nailing strip on a single and its relationship with
> > the glue strip. =A0I've had several roofers tell me that this is the way=

> > roofs were put on at the time and the code has changed since. =A0If this=

> > is allowed then I'm not sure it pays to have insurance. I'm putting on
> > a new roof out of my pocket and leaving Allstate and will never return.
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> =A0Dia 's Muire duit


Posted by ransley on April 16, 2008, 12:42 pm
> Beware Allstate. =A0My house was built in 1993 and met all building
> codes at that time. =A0Now I have wind damage and they will not cover
> damage because the roof is not up to current code. =A0We are simply
> talking about the nailing strip on a single and its relationship with
> the glue strip. =A0I've had several roofers tell me that this is the way
> roofs were put on at the time and the code has changed since. =A0If this
> is allowed then I'm not sure it pays to have insurance. I'm putting on
> a new roof out of my pocket and leaving Allstate and will never return.

They insured you and had alot of opertunities to inform you your roof
was wrong and didnt, but it wasnt when it was built, im sure there is
a state board you can complain to and small claims court.

Posted by Red Green on April 16, 2008, 9:51 pm
5acb47114c74@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

> Beware Allstate. My house was built in 1993 and met all building
> codes at that time. Now I have wind damage and they will not cover
> damage because the roof is not up to current code. We are simply
> talking about the nailing strip on a single and its relationship with
> the glue strip. I've had several roofers tell me that this is the way
> roofs were put on at the time and the code has changed since. If this
> is allowed then I'm not sure it pays to have insurance. I'm putting on
> a new roof out of my pocket and leaving Allstate and will never return.

So if your house burns down because of an electrical fire, Allstate said
(not you, Allstate) they will not pay because you don't have (assumption)
AFCI's in you panel box. I doubt that you and Allstate discussed this by
chance but if your roof claim is as you say then my electrical scenario
must be true.

The way you are describing your experience, Allstate wants all their
customers to rip their house apart every time there is a major or local
code change? Doesn't sound right to me.

[note: not an AFCI wiz bang. Just something I read in this group about
new codes and using for an example]


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